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It loads a shell or snap cap, and when I rack the slide it ejects it, but doesn't load a fresh round. I have to pump the action a second time to get it to load a new one...

So I have to do a full pump action twice to chamber and fire a single round.

Pump to load a round, fire, pump to eject it and it loads an empty chamber, pump it a second time to get a new round, fire, pump to eject and load another empty chamber, repeat.

Does it with both tubes, doesn't matter what type of ammo. using standard 2.75" shells. This is all done with the safety on pointed at a safe backdrop.

Any ideas of what to look for?

I have taken it apart and cleaned and lubed everything, nothing seems amiss...
 

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Are you doing this while actually firing the gun? Or just manually cycling (as with snap caps)? If the latter then this is a known thing with the KSG. Honestly I don't know why that can be the case, but mine sometimes does the same thing with snap caps (not always, but at least some of the time). If I just go out and shoot it I have no problems at all. If you search a bit there are other threads about this here and elsewhere.
 

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Not firing, just cycling. Are you saying that it is a known issue when just cycling rounds, that doesn't translate into an issue when actually firing those shells? Weird! WHo does firing not have the issue? The recoil does something to make it work properly that just cycling does not?

I have never had a shotgun do that.. be it a Mav88, 870 or a cheap turkish pump gun...

Any link for that so that I can read up on it?
 

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A few dozen threads out there. I don't have time to search right now...maybe later this evening.

Keep in mind, Kel Tec never made a shotgun before...they did some things slightly different than other manufacturers. Which means they are a bit picky at feeding UNSHOT rounds and snap caps. I personally think it's more of an operator error. You don't rack the unshot rounds/snap caps the same as you would fired rounds.
 

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I personally think it's more of an operator error. You don't rack the unshot rounds/snap caps the same as you would fired rounds.
I think this is quite true. I've recently been able to successfully cycle some of my snap caps and when it is successful it's been when I rack the gun with extreme prejudice.
 

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I had this problem just yesterday when I was trying to cycle 2.75" snap caps for the first time. (I just bought my ksg this last weekend) My solution was to make sure the slide release is FULLY depressed the entire time you're cycling the weapon.

I found that if I released the slide, let go of the release, and pulled the forend back, the chambered round would eject. However on the return stroke a new round would not be pulled from the magazine.

I discovered that keeping the slide release engaged for the full cycle ensured that the snap caps cycled correctly.
 

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Ok noobs, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. The KSG can't open up the magazine to let out another round until after the prior round has ejected. The actions of the slide all happen in a very discrete sequence, and the opening of the magazine is the very last thing to happen. The CTG Outer Catch is the last thing to actuate before the slide stop engages. When you feel the slide start to resist, this is the slide depressing the CTG Outer Catch, which releases a round. The catch doesn't open fully until the slide is all the way back.

Rack the slide firmly. Doesn't need to be fast, doesn't need to be violent, just has to be firm enough for the slide to push that catch all the way down, until the slide won't go any farther back. If you do it slowly, you'll feel and hear the new round come out of the magazine every time. If you short stroke it, it won't open the magazine. This is all there is to it.

It works easier in real firing because the recoil helps push the slide back, and most people tend to pump more vigorously when not focusing on it anyway.
 

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Will try that, thanks for the heads up. I also imagine that over time, things will loosen up a bit... the slide action is a little stiff and "sticky", despite multiple cleanings and plenty of lube... giggity...
 
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