Yeah I hear that a lot that's why I'm leaning towards spending the extra $75 for the kel techDevil_Anse said:Hi point are great range toys, or throw into tacklebox, but I've shot enough of them and seen enough broken ones to not be super keen on staking my life on one in a ccw appropriate situation. On the other hand, there seems to be some bugs that may need worked out on a pf9. The difference being the pf9, if properly cared for, should outlast a hpc9 in the rounds fired department.
I have owned a few different h.p.s, my favorite being a 9 mm carbine which was great, a few of the 9 pistols and one 45. The pistols just seemed to wear out after a while, where everything (extractor, barrel mount, safteys, etc.) was loose and floppy. I never kept one long enough to actually break it, but I did put several hundred rounds through them while they were with me. I just always felt like my luck would be bad enough that when I needed a hp pistol to function, that's when something would break...
Lol... it depends on his size, I cc'd my s&w 629 (4" .44 mag, n frame) for a while with no problems other than a sore back... but I'm 6'5 and 300 lbs. I could dual carry iwb two hp c9s and not even look different.Yeah I hear that a lot that's why I'm leaning towards spending the extra $75 for the kel tech
Power drill? Nah. But there are lots of jokes about the butt plate on the 10 round C9 mags looking like a battery pack for a drill.Aren't the Hi Points about the size of a power hand drill? Do you expect to concealed carry something that large?
Peace favor your sword,I'll start with the CC. I'm not a "big" man, at 5'5" but, as you can see, the C9 slips into the front pocket of my Wal-Mart jeans no problem with very little printing. It does print a little, but a pocket holster would break that up and not enough that most people would notice it. I don't think I'd like to spend a lot of time walking because the weight would drag at my pants, but other than that, no big deal.
Sure it would. See my post.I'm 5'5" 130 so wouldn't work on me lol
"Much" is a subjective statement. The official HP website says the C9 is 29 oz. The Glock 19 is 21 oz. That would make it a mere 8 oz. heavier. Not much. Maybe. Depending on whether or not 8 oz. is "heavier" to you.For Ccw hands down pf9. The c9 is roughly the same size as a glock 19 yet MUCH heavier.
The primary safety is, like any weapon, between your ears. The only way a PF9 will fire is if you pull the long double action trigger. It won't fire if dropped or bumped in any way. I've carried one of mine with just the belt clip for over a year and it's never been a problem.I hear they don't have a safety. That worries my wife. What safety precautions are on it to insure a accidental shot isn't fired anything?