Kel tec p3at extractor?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by Riley75j, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    Has kel tec made some improvements on the extractor for the p3at?
    I just yesterday changed one on my pistol and looking at both side by side the new one appeared a little larger, not by much but a little.
    Does anyone have any idea on this?
    My gun is about 5 years old.
     
  2. haugrdr

    haugrdr Super Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    Jan 4, 2008
    Daytona Beach
    Kel Tec is always making small changes and improvements during production runs...but they rarely if ever announce anything about them. There's probably been several since your pistol was made.
     

  3. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    Good to know, thanks.
     
  4. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    Texas
    Thanks for reporting. These things are good to know and the new one might help someone who's having issues.
     
  5. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
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    The reason I replaced the extractor was fte issues.
    I was holding it very tight, pushing with my strong hand and pulling with my support hand, locked good and tight I'm thinking.
    As I said the old extractor looked a little worn, the new one looked a little bigger, not much but a little.
    Also I replaced the recoil springs, the new ones were a little tighter putting the slide back on. The old ones may have been worn some.
    Now all I have to do is take it out and try it.
    I'm optimistic this will fix it.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2016
  6. jpshaw

    jpshaw New Member

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    Jul 11, 2012
    Report back and let us know if that fixed it or not.
     
  7. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    I'll do that as soon as I can get out and run a few magazines through it.:rayof:
     
  8. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    :rayof: Well I got out and ran about 6 magazines through it and, success!
    Two of the mags were hornaday critical defense with one failure to extract the other 4 mags were federal range loads and flawless.
    The failure with the hornaday was the first mag, 2nd shot.
    From what I've been reading the problem could have been caused by the previous owner using steel cased ammo, just a guess.
    Anyway I read on the taurus site that says there has been a upgrade on the extractors.
    Also with the slight tip of the barrel on extraction and any ware on the extractor (steel cased ammo?) it makes sence. Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it! :rayof:
     
  9. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    Well I got out and ran about 6 magazines through it and, success!
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2016
  10. WildWes

    WildWes Member Supporter

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    Sep 9, 2004
    Wayne County, GA
    I recently purchased a used P3aT manufactured in 2009. The extractor looked ok to me, but on 3 trips to the range, I would have 2-6 extraction issues. I switched up ammo and was using the push/pull hold like Riley75j. So, I ordered up a new extraction kit from KT and ran 100 rounds of 90g XTP thru it with no issues. If it keeps performing like this, it will probably replace my P-32 for concealed carry.

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  11. WildWes

    WildWes Member Supporter

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    Sep 9, 2004
    Wayne County, GA
    Oh yeah! Today I put 50 95g FMJ, 50 90g XTP & 20 90g HS thru my P3aT without any extraction/ejection hiccups. Half were shot using the KT recoil guide/spring, while the second half were shot with a new Galloway SS guide rod & 13# spring. To be honest, I couldn't tell a difference between the KT 9# spring and the Galloway 13# spring. I might try this spring test with my P-32 next time out. Anyway, after 220 rounds of 3 different types/brand of ammo, the new KT extraction kit seems to be the fix I needed.
     
  12. Steve912

    Steve912 Member

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    Aug 11, 2015
    How's that?
     
  13. gordon11

    gordon11 Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2007
    My original lasted 600 rounds. The replacement extractor is somewhere around 2600 rounds in without issue. It must've been beefed up somehow.
     
  14. Riley75j

    Riley75j New Member

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    Nov 27, 2016
    Its just that brass casings are softer metal that making them easier on the extractor.
    When I replaced the old extractor with the new one I seen that the old was slightly worn on the tip. It didnt it look as agressive as the newer one, not as big. Not that there was a big differance in size but there was a little differance.
    Something wore down the extractor, why couldnt it have been steel case ammo?
    Anyway this is my thought on the issue. When I replaced the extractor it seemed to help matters. So Im going with this.
     
  15. gordon11

    gordon11 Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2007
    I should've added to my earlier post, when my extractor went bad, it was such a subtle wear/chip on the very tip that you couldn't even see it without a magnifying glass. During that time it still cycled Gold Dots, of all things, with their slick nickel plating. No other nickel or brass cased ammo would extract. It was an easy fix and I've really enjoyed this gun for thousands of rounds since.