Just got new blued P3at, slight surface rust?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by BobbiRS, May 13, 2009.

  1. BobbiRS

    BobbiRS New Member

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    May 3, 2008
    Hey guys, my husband and I just got 2 P3ats, and the black frame/blued slide one (which is brand new) has what appears to be a slight amount of surface rust on the slide. It's in the "valley", or recessed portion of both slide grip areas (the serrated part of the slide on each side), about 2 or 3 pinhead-size specks. Also, there's a tiny bit on the right portion of the rear of the slide. Again, it's just a couple of pinhead size specks. I tried to scratch it off to see if it was dirt, but it's not budging.

    Should I be concerned about this? Should I email Kel-Tec or the seller? I tried to take a pic, but the color and specks don't show up well, they're pretty dang small. Can I clean this off myself with mineral spirits, then lube?

    Thanks,
    Bobbi
     
  2. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    congrates on getting the P3ATs and welcome to the P3 section of KTOG.

    If you have a cosmetic problem with your KT's, you need to get it back to KT, Fla. as soon as possible. While their warranty is lifetime with no questions, returns for finish usally require proof of purchase to show date

    P3's have only an utilitarian blue finish, not a very deep, intense finish as found on classic guns.
    this finish will show holster wear etc with normal handling. For a high quality finish you should send it to others (for a price) Sorry, I don't recall the names of who is providing the best refinishing at this time, but I'm sure other's will post
     

  3. Spikejerk

    Spikejerk New Member

  4. diamond_jim

    diamond_jim New Member

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    Oct 28, 2008
    I sent my slide to Jack Fuselier last week, for plating, but he will do (Heavy Duty) re-bluing also. Mine wasn't rusty, just wanted it purd'yd up a bit.  Jim  <><
     
  5. BillK

    BillK New Member

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    Jul 23, 2007
    Happy for your getting two P3ATs, if you don't already know they can be great carry guns.

    Sorry to read about the rust. With my blued/black the only place I've gotten rust is on the steel spring pin at the bottom of the grip. The rust you describe, on a new gun, would be unacceptable to me - guess I would suspect a poor bluing job or prep job prior to bluing. Call Kel-Tec explain the situation, bet they'll tell you to send it back for an exchange. I've dealt with Kel-Tec a few times and have been very pleased with the service I've recieved.

    Take care...
     
  6. KelTex78

    KelTex78 New Member

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    Jan 10, 2009
    Can you post pictures?
     
  7. BobbiRS

    BobbiRS New Member

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    May 3, 2008
    JFB, good advice - I called Kel Tec and they said send it on in. I went ahead and mailed it this afternoon with a note and copy of my bill of sale for dating purposes. Thanks for letting me know about that by the way.

    KelTex, the pics I took don't really show the spots, and the gun is now on its way back home. It really just looked like shmutz (sp?), but a vigorous rubbing with a q-tip showed serious brown, like when you rub rust.

    I think BillK is right in that either there was a bad prep job, or maybe the dealer had handled it and didn't oil it. Either way, the dealer said he'll send me money for the shipping to KT. I'm just upset I won't get to break it in at our camping trip next week! World's tiniest violin...

    Thanks again for all the advice, guys!

    Bobbi
     
  8. rcmodel

    rcmodel New Member

    Feb 6, 2005
    Eastern Kansas
    Wish I had seen this sooner, before you sent it back to the mother-ship.

    More then likely the red in the bottoms of the slide gripping grooves was nothing more then residue left over from the hot bluing process.

    Bluing is basically black iron oxide formed on the surface of the metal.
    It is done in a hot bath containing bluing salts that form the iron oxide.
    A freshly blued gun comes out of the bath covered in bright red rust. This is carded off with a fine wire wheel, or by hand with steel wool and oil.
    Under the red rust, is blueing.

    Sounds like they just didn't get it all out of the slide grooves.

    Usually a good scrubbing with a bronze bore brush & solvent takes care of it.

    rc
     
  9. BillK

    BillK New Member

    898
    Jul 23, 2007
    Wow, that's the kind of dealer I like to do business with even if their prices were to be a little higher than the compitition. Personally I'd thank the dealer and say forget about it or if the dealer insisted put it towards buying some product from him. One could always use some cleaning patches or a 9mm brush for cleaning their P3AT.

    Take care...
     
  10. SecurityGeek

    SecurityGeek New Member

    1
    May 20, 2009
    I sent mine off to Don Haney (GoldenLoki.com) for reliability prep and had him Duracote the blued bits as well. Very reasonable and a quick turnaround.
     
  11. hotrodchevrolet

    hotrodchevrolet New Member

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    May 24, 2009
    after carrying mine in a K&D leather holster in my front pocket for multiple weeks without even removing it from the holster/looking at it, i noticed some rust on the slide from 'sweat' from being in my front pocket all day every day against my thigh. this may not be what you are experiencing, but it can happen if you don't regularly oil it when carrying it against your body on a regular basis.