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It's hard to believe that it's been 57 years. I remember it like it was yesterday. I was a junior in high school in english class with a substitute teacher. The principal came over the loud speaker but made a mistake and said President Roosevelt had been shot. He corrected himself a few seconds later and said President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas. At first disbelief. This doesn't happen in America. Girls started crying. Everything became eerily quiet. The stairwells as we moved to other classes were mostly silent of the chatter that normally took place except for some crying. We all huddled around radios in classrooms and study hall. Then school got out and the beginning of a dark weekend began. The radios and tv stations had it on thru the whole time. Scenes at Parkland Hospital in Dallas. Oswald being paraded in front of the news people and his statements. The coffin coming off the plane in DC. Then the funeral procession with Black Jack the rider less horse with backward boots in the stirrups denoting a fallen rider. I was sixteen and knew there were troubles in the world but as I look back this seemed to be the end of innocence for my generation. A little way down the road was the quagmire of Vietnam and all the rest waiting.
 

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I was 7 months old. I won't relate my response since it was scatological in nature, and this is a fambly show. ; )

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I guess this post is just for us old folks. I was 11, in the fifth grade and living in Houston. JFK had just left Houston and flew to Dallas that morning. It was weird.
 
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Im with LOP -- the generation that did not really live through it, but have heard about it nonstop for half a century.
I confess to being mildly interested in what really happened, just because, but that seems to remain unlikely to be proven and disclosed.
 

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I studied what I could as an amateur and all I can tell you is forget about the shooting. Those are just golden apples spread before you as a distraction. Start looking into Oswald's connections. Younger people may not be interested in it but you should be. It will show you that there are those that will work to get rid of a president. One way or another.
 
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I studied what I could as an amateur and all I can tell you is forget about the shooting. Those are just golden apples spread before you as a distraction. Start looking into Oswald's connections. Younger people may not be interested in it but you should be. It will show you that there are those that will work to get rid of a president. One way or another.
Careful fez......that concept may make some uncomfortable.
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Im with LOP -- the generation that did not really live through it, but have heard about it nonstop for half a century.
I confess to being mildly interested in what really happened, just because, but that seems to remain unlikely to be proven and disclosed.
I studied what I could as an amateur and all I can tell you is forget about the shooting. Those are just golden apples spread before you as a distraction. Start looking into Oswald's connections. Younger people may not be interested in it but you should be. It will show you that there are those that will work to get rid of a president. One way or another.
Jonnin, anyone who could tell what really happened is long dead. So no, we will never know the truth. And Fez, in my mind there were six groups who apparently wanted JFK dead: the Mafia, the expatriate Cubans for being left at the Bay of Pigs, Khrushchev and the Soviets for the missile crisis, J Edgar Hoover, the Castro Cubans because there was supposed to have been an assassination plot against Castro, and the CIA for leaving them with egg on their face with the Bay of Pigs fiasco ( and I'm not forgetting LBJ because of the benefit of JFK dying for him). I have always wondered if they didn't all coordinate and cooperate.
 
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Jonnin, anyone who could tell what really happened is long dead. So no, we will never know the truth. And Fez, in my mind there were six groups who apparently wanted JFK dead: the Mafia, the expatriate Cubans for being left at the Bay of Pigs, Khrushchev and the Soviets for the missile crisis, J Edgar Hoover, the Castro Cubans because there was supposed to have been an assassination plot against Castro, and the CIA for leaving them with egg on their face with the Bay of Pigs fiasco ( and I'm not forgetting LBJ because of the benefit of JFK dying for him). I have always wondered if they didn't all coordinate and cooperate.
You left out two. The military industrial complex, Deep state. JFK didn’t want to expand our involvement in VN. Lots of money riding on that rodeo. Perhaps his most dangerous endeavor was trying to defang the Federal reserve. He had made many enemies. In the end his biggest mistake may simply have been trying to actually be the President and ignore the “advisers“?
 

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You left out two. The military industrial complex, Deep state. JFK didn’t want to expand our involvement in VN. Lots of money riding on that rodeo. Perhaps his most dangerous endeavor was trying to defang the Federal reserve. He had made many enemies. In the end his biggest mistake may simply have been trying to actually be the President and ignore the “advisers“?
I agree. Robert Kennedy was making serious enemies as the Attorney General also, but I kind of included them (the Mafia and J Edgar Hoover). But he paid too. LBJ made millions from continuing the war. His wife owned Pacific Architects and Engineers, who built, maintained and rented all of the buildings to the military.
 
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I agree anyone who was involved and had first hand knowledge is probably long gone. Anyone involved is probably in their mid 80s (assuming they were in their early 30s at the time of?) and ... well, people vanish and stuff :)
If we learn of anything, it will be govt records or someone who has inherited knowledge (eg, a mafia family passing down info?) coming forward. But I suspect it will never be known.
 

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Just remember that the father Joe Kennedy started out as a bootlegger. He had connections with the mob. They got JFK the votes in Chicago and not necessarily by legal means. Giancana was not happy when JFK and RFK went after Hoffa and the mob after the election. The mob, cubans, fbi, cia were all loosely tied together for whatever was needed by one or the other. You scratch my back I'll scratch your back. My father was Sicilian. He used to say that the only ones that want you to believe there is no conspiracy are the conspirators.
 

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I forgot about including Frank Sinatra. He blamed JFK for Marilyn Monroe's death/suicide. But that could possibly be lumped in with the mafia.
 
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But the thing that most amazes me the most is that Jack Ruby walked up and killed Lee Harvey Oswald on TV out of rage, he maintained. I got to see that happen. Nobody spoke of the fact that Jack Ruby had terminal cancer and died in prison a little over three years later. How convenient. I wonder how well his wife was taken care of?
 
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Jackie Onassis gave a statement that is supposed to be locked up until some time in the future. Its probably going to disappear.
Maybe Sandy Berger stole it.
 

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Jackie Onassis gave a statement that is supposed to be locked up until some time in the future. Its probably going to disappear.
Maybe Sandy Berger stole it.
Jimmy Hoffa has it.
 

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Pearl Harbor, we knew it was coming.
JFK, he had it coming.
911, gold removed, building 7, Israelis watching.
COVID-19 Release, POTUS 2nd term derailed
What's next?
 
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Malcom X said JFK's murder was a case of the chickens coming home to roost. The cia was involved in the assassination of Joesph kasavubu and Patrice Lumumba in the Congo with a more friendly to America Seko Mobutu waiting in the wings. They also worked with the mob in trying to eliminate Castro. There were a lot of actors who had reason to eliminate JFK. Who acted on it we may never know. People think that some mysterious document will show up explaining what happened. It doesn't work that way. It's decided in back rooms with a wink and a nod.
 

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So, With sights set on building casinos and the Cuban cigar trade, Mob boss wasn't too happy with bay of pigs?
 

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So, With sights set on building casinos and the Cuban cigar trade, Mob boss wasn't too happy with bay of pigs?
The mob gave the extra push to push Kennedy over the top and into the White House. Not sure what perks they were expecting but it wasn’t the war He and Bobby unleashed on them.
 
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