It has been some time since I last posted ... If anyone recalls, I had a horrid experience with my first P3AT, where it just never fired more than a few rounds without jamming. If fairness, KT customer service ultimately made it a functioning firearm, but I had lost all interest and sold it. But...that size kept calling me and I tried a second purchase. Again, it was not a reliable gun, and I gave up on KT "for good". But....that size kept calling me and about 6 months ago I bought number 3. And, what a good idea that was! 100% out of the box...all types of ammo, not a single failure...accurate and easy to carry and shoot. Now, about number 4....and we know there will be a number 4 ! So, like a wayward child, I have returned "home".