Handloads in a P3AT

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by Dilligas, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. Dilligas

    Dilligas New Member

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    Nov 6, 2008
    I am new to KelTec but have been shooting and reloading ammo for over 25 years. I was wondering if there is any problem with using handloads in the P3AT, I have some 95g FMJ and 95g JSP and plan on using WW231 powder.
     
  2. JRadice45

    JRadice45 New Member

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    Aug 22, 2008
    From what I understand, work up your loads as normal using published data. Check your cases very well. I believe the 3AT has an unsupported chamber and if loaded too hot the cases will start to look like a preggo fish.
     

  3. +1 on watching for bulged cases. I do not re-load .380, but the guy that owns my local club property does. I am always picking up brass and looking out for .380 brass for him.

    From time to time I will run a mag of Cor-Bon DPX (my carry round) through my 3AT. EVERY Cor-Bon case I find will have a MAJOR bulge out of the 3AT.

    I am not sure if it is that the Cor-Bon brass is that much thinner....or the load develops that much more pressure.

    If you want.....I can ask him what load he uses.....but he runs a Bersa .380 - not a KT 3AT.
     
  4. bazookabert

    bazookabert New Member

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    Dec 29, 2007
    I have loaded with 90 g Hornady XTP with Power Pistol Powder. I think it was 4.5 grains.... but I would have to go back and look. I have not had any problems with the load, but it does have a bark to it! ;)

    Cheers
     
  5. zeke

    zeke New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
    When I load for the 380 I use Win231 with 95 gr bullets. Don't remember how many grains. It's a few tenths of a grain less than the max load in the lyman book, just in case the measure throws a load a little heavy.
     
  6. Dilligas

    Dilligas New Member

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    Nov 6, 2008
    Well I loaded 50 tonight, 95g JSPHB with 3.6g WW231, .970 COAL. I went on the light side for now, will try them in the P3AT tomorrow and see how they run, thanks for the input.
     
  7. bazookabert

    bazookabert New Member

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    Dec 29, 2007
    Length was very critical for me. I think it may be the shape of the hornady bullet. If they are even the slightest bit long they bind in the magazine. Just something to watch out for ;)
     
  8. Dilligas

    Dilligas New Member

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    Nov 6, 2008
    Well everything shot fine today, this was the first time shooting it since I bought it. Only has 1 FTE when a friend limpwristed it ;D. This little pistol is surprisingly accurate, since everything performed so well I loaded up 200 more rounds, the only change I made was changing the OAL from .970 to .960. Thanks for the input.
     
  9. rivardj

    rivardj New Member

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    May 28, 2005
    I have recently started working on a load for the P3AT that uses Montana Gold 0.355” diameter 115gr HP bullets. I am doing this to minimize the number of bullet types to stock for reloading. The best load so far is with 3.3 gr of Unique and an OAL of 0.962”. I went up to 3.5 gr of Unique at the same length and experience larger case bulges than I like to see. However, the 3.5 gr load appears to be safe if not reusing cases. The hotter of the two loads also had very stout recoil and a couple of failures to extract.. The average velocities for these two loads over my Chrony F-1 were 756 fps and 815 fps respectively.
     
  10. Mamba

    Mamba New Member

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    Apr 5, 2007
    I use the same "soft" loads that I make up for the wife's Bersa Thunder; 100g RNFB over 3.2g W231 .975 OAL. Have a couple hundred flawless rounds thru my P3. Recoil is negligible, fairly accurate too.
     
  11. tweed

    tweed New Member

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    Nov 15, 2008

    ok i gotta know... what the hell i a preggo fish!!? :-/
     
  12. johnfrommd

    johnfrommd Member

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    Jul 20, 2007
    I use 2.2gns of WW231 behind a 95gn FMJ for practice.  They are accurate and don't throw the brass all to hell and gone.  I have never had a problem with my reloads and even use them in IDPA Bug gun competition.

    Regards,

    John
     
  13. Glasstream15

    Glasstream15 New Member

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    Nov 10, 2008
    tweed,

    About to have lots of baby fishies.
     
  14. edpm3

    edpm3 New Member

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    Nov 12, 2008
    I worked up my first .380 loads last night using 2.7gn of Titegroup with a 95gn Rainier. Won't be finding out today how they work - it's 22°F outside. Maybe over the weekend.
     
  15. Mamba

    Mamba New Member

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    Apr 5, 2007
    Hmmm...that's really light. I didn't want to go under 3 as I was concerned about the cycle'n on the heavier Bersa. Plus not as much diff in recoil when shoot'n the SD rounds.
     
  16. johnfrommd

    johnfrommd Member

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    Jul 20, 2007
    I wanted to go as light as possible with no short strokes so I didn't have to chase empties. I use a Lee factory crimp die in my last station to keep from getting FTC's. The surprising part is that they are still accurate as the faster stuff. Of course a stones thrown at 21 feet probably all hit the same spot too. ;)

    Regards,

    John
     
  17. Mamba

    Mamba New Member

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    Apr 5, 2007
    Yup, have the Lee FCD also...really love those...was a little tricky to set for the .380s but works great. Not worried about brass here; indoor range...doesn't travel far. I was just surprised how light your load is...see any increased limp wrist issues? And have you tried those in a larger gun?
     
  18. johnfrommd

    johnfrommd Member

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    Jul 20, 2007
    EEEEK! Your comments about my light load made me go and look at the bag I have them in. The writing is wearing off and is actually 2.7 not 2.2. I had to check my records to make sure.

    Sorry for the mistake, me bad. :-[

    I don't have any other pistols in .380. I have several in 9mm Mak which I load with 2.5 Bullseye or 3.0 of WW231 behind a Berry TMJ bullet.

    Outdoor ranges are a ***** if you reload small calibers. Sometimes I don't find them until I mow the grass! When it snows, we have to wait till spring thaw to reload. ;)

    Regards,

    John
     
  19. Mamba

    Mamba New Member

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    Apr 5, 2007
    >Sorry for the mistake, me bad

    ;D NP...that's still light but a lot closer to my loads given the slightly heavier bullet. I've not tried less as 3.2 is the minimum setting on my AutoDisk and I've not had cause to play around with the micro bar yet.

    Yah, much easier to find the brass indoors. The P3 throws pretty much straight up/back, often with a spin as they'll hit the floor and spin for a few seconds...kinda entertaining.