It’s certainly not bad but there are better choices. The main attribute that the sub brings to the table is its ability to fold and unfold. This is a very desirable thing for discreet transport of a long gun. That ability also has some negatives. It is not a strong firearm and it has the ergonomics of a piece of pipe with a brick attached. Unless you need the folding feature I would get another PCC for the home defense role. The Barretta storm carbine for example is a far better weapon as to dependability, longevity and ergonomics.
I personally keep a Remington 870 20 gauge youth model with 2 buckshots and 2 bird shots behind for my primary home defense and will bring it out way before my Sub2K. Now in the future, when I have to contend with marauding hordes coming down my road, I will have my S2K and my two CMR30s to meet them with.
That's why I have the youth model 870. Nice and short and maneuverable. I also have a 9mm pistol as backup.It always depends on your situation. With a carbine, your penetration through walls, etc. will be greater due to a longer barrel. If you live in an apartment, you could conceivably shoot someone next door. Consider your situation and the layout of your home. Shotguns with buckshot may be a better option, but are not as manageable in tight quarters.
Handguns with a good light are another good choice. Do your research and then decide. Lots of good information on the internet. Check out Pew Pew Tactical. They have a good article on best home defense choices.
I love my Subbie, but it wouldn't be my first choice for home defense.
Just like, literally, thousands of other options, it will do the job fine. The most important things are that you are competent and comfortable using it. That includes practicing until you are an expert with the platform.
If you are concerned about over-penetration then a carbine in 5.56 is the way to go. Real-world tests consistently confirm that 5.56 penetrates fewer walls than most other options, including most shotgun ammo above birdshot.It always depends on your situation. With a carbine, your penetration through walls, etc. will be greater due to a longer barrel. If you live in an apartment, you could conceivably shoot someone next door. Consider your situation and the layout of your home. Shotguns with buckshot may be a better option, but are not as manageable in tight quarters.
I used the "I don't have one of those" justification.I justified buying my S2K by saying I needed a truck/backpack gun.
I'm not trying to talk you out of buying an S2K. They are a cool, unique and fun firearm (and definitely fun to show people). My point is that if you want to use it for home defense, keep it unfolded and chambered for quick use.
Train with it, be completely comfortable and familiar with it and most any weapon will serve you well for that purpose. Plus a Sub2K with 33 round magazine of Hydra-Shocks is formidable in most any situation. Situational awareness is required as well, always knowing what’s beyond your target is of the utmost importance when a family member might be on the other side of a wall.
First time I saw the tests it was from Box o' Truth. But since then I've seen it replicated by everyone from (noted gun writer) Tom Gresham to random youtubers.Where did that come from? What kind of loads?
Yeah, that kinda makes sense, if you were using 55 gr I suppose it could go that way. The old tumbling 5.56 story has been around since the 60s. But based on real-world use, I have seen them go in one side and out the other. We are even allowed to use .223 on deer up here, just not FMJs. You are also assuming people are using 55 r projectiles, or at least basing your response on that.First time I saw the tests it was from Box o' Truth. But since then I've seen it replicated by everyone from (noted gun writer) Tom Gresham to random youtubers.
The short version is that the light (55gr) 5.56 at high velocity tends to tumble and rapidly lose energy, quickly intermediating, as it passes through drywall. OTOH, the heavier, slower moving, solidly constructed, pistol rounds tend to maintain their integrity and momentum much more as they pass through drywall.
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Not sure I follow; are you saying that 5.56 fmj tumbles in flight after 10 meters?In basic training (50+ years ago) we were shown a film of the tumbling effect of the 5.56 out of an M16...We were also told that the projectile did not begin tumbling until more than 10 meters. Either way, I think the fmj round would penetrate several drywall walls in its path.