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Is there any sense to putting in a spring kit in the Gen 1 sub? I really do not like the trigger and feel I would be more accurate if it were a bit better but thought I would ask someone that has done it and if it is worth it?

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I used the Mcarbo trigger spring kit and I absolutely love it. My gen 2 had a horrible trigger and with a little polishing and the springs she is now a sweet shooter. I just have to get rid of that plastic trigger.
 

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I used the Mcarbo trigger spring kit and I absolutely love it. My gen 2 had a horrible trigger and with a little polishing and the springs she is now a sweet shooter. I just have to get rid of that plastic trigger.
I'd highly recommend the aluminum trigger from Performance Services:

http://www.performanceservicesmachi...l-tec-generation-1-and-2-trigger-replacement/

Difference between the original and aluminum trigger is like night and day. It feels MUCH better and it wasn't too difficult to install. I followed the Mcarbro video (for the most part...I didn't think some steps were necessary) and only had one "ooops" where I had to re-open the rifle after I thought I was done.

 

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Ok when you guys say the trigger upgrade are you also referring to the spring kit also? In other words get both the spring kit and the trigger or just the trigger?
I really would like to get rid of the mussy feel and the hard pull. I really feel it takes away from accuracy. At least for me.
 

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Two separate items, springs & trigger.

I upgraded both while I had the gun torn apart.
I buggered up the MCARBO trigger return spring during installation, and put the original back in.
MCARBO mailed me a replacement, but I'm not rushing to tear the gun apart again...
 

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I also looked at the video. Am I correct in saying you don't have to remove the barrel or the buffer tube? Seemed like maybe you don't have to do that. Idono

Thanks guys. Right now if I am trying to shoot for accuracy I am pulling the trigger back smoothly but the last part I almost have to snap, or jerk, it back to get accuracy. I get very good accuracy that way but don't like snapping the trigger. If I try to make a smooth pull the rounds go everywhere. That last part before the trigger brakes is the problem for me. Yeah the trigger does filex,at least it feels like it. I think if I got this way I will do both at the same time.
Are there different manufacturers for spring kits or is the only one available from Kel tec?

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Two separate items, springs & trigger.

I upgraded both while I had the gun torn apart.
I buggered up the MCARBO trigger return spring during installation, and put the original back in.
MCARBO mailed me a replacement, but I'm not rushing to tear the gun apart again...
I agree that it's two separate items.

I ONLY replaced the trigger. The plastic dug into my finger every time I pulled the trigger and it felt like it was "flexing" when i pulled it.

I hated it from the first dry-fire I did in the gun shop.

After I run a few hundred rounds with the (fantastic feeling) aluminum trigger I'll see about the spring kit.

Like H2OMAN, I'm not in a rush to take the gun apart again. It wasn't extremely difficult, but it's time-consuming.
 

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They were telling me the same. Only reason they are making a aluminum trigger is because people asked them for it. They are a great company so if you have any ideas just call or email them they are happy to listen to us.
 

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gbdeamer

I also looked at the video. Am I correct in saying you don't have to remove the barrel or the buffer tube? Seemed like maybe you don't have to do that. Idono
Sorry, I missed that question.

Since I was just replacing the trigger I did not remove the barrel or tube. Additionally, I did not remove the screws from the opposite side of the pistol grip. In the video the guy puts all the screw posts back in place anyway, so I didn't see the need to take that many screws off.

My goal was to replace the trigger without upsetting any of the springs, but I accidentally bumped one of them when inspecting things and everything came off!

My other deviation was in the the way they remove the stock pin. For some reason the guy uses a hammer and punch instead of using his finger to ease the tension and pushing the pin out by hand.

In all it wasn't THAT difficult to do, but make sure you give yourself plenty of free time so you don't feel rushed.

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They were telling me the same. Only reason they are making a aluminum trigger is because people asked them for it. They are a great company so if you have any ideas just call or email them they are happy to listen to us.
I talked with someone last week, great people indeed, I think an email blast will go out once they release the trigger, got my 10% off coupon now too :rayof:
Once the S2K spring goes in it may well be my favorite shooter again. !
 
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