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They are fun guns. I have 2 now with a HC conversion for my p11 also that got me hooked. I get looks every time at the range. Not the easiest to shoot but manageable with practice.

Parkerized p40 on left and blued p11 on right.
 

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Pardon the thread jack, but for you guys who have both--can you compare the recoil sensation between the P-11 and -40?

Is a 'typical' .40 similar to a +P 9mm round?
Think of a +P 147 grain load.
 

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My .40 conversion for the P11 feels like a 357 snubnose. First time I shot it, I began to laugh how similar they were to me.



$185 seems like a deal to me! Enjoy the added fire power.



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Depends on the bullet weight. 155 or 165 are sharp but can be controlled. The 180 are very difficult for a lot of people. I have a complete P-40 with box and a P-11 HC upper to go with it. I have not shot the 9 mm yet. I had a S&W 640 hammerless that was just slightly sharper with 158 JHP loads than the 165 JHP 40 cal in the P-40. Some of my friends could (or would) only shoot 1 round in the S&w 640 but would shoot 3 or 4 165 gr in the P-40. I sold the S&W 640 because I did NOT LIKE THE RECOIL. The 180 gr in the P-40 is too much for me to shoot.

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Pardon the thread jack, but for you guys who have both--can you compare the recoil sensation between the P-11 and -40?

Is a 'typical' .40 similar to a +P 9mm round?
I would stay a standard .40S&W in a P40 has stronger recoil than a 9mm +P in a P11.

Back in about 1999, I bought a .40S&W conversion kit for my P11. After shooting about 30 rounds of .40 in one shooting session, and having the skin on my right thumb knuckle being rubbed off, I promptly sold the .40 conversion.

It took me 15 years to decide to try the .40 again. This time, I was lucky enough to get a good deal on a real P40 and now I only shoot high-velocity (2000 fps), lightweight-bullet (with a 60-grain lead-free bullet) Liberty Ammunition .40S&W rounds, which have considerably reduced recoil, which I don't mind.

I have small hands and this is just my experience and my opinion and I'm sure others don't have the problems I have with the P40. Just be advised that it's a beast to fire. It may or may not be an issue for you.
 

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I bought a box of 180 gr RNFP jacketed ammunition when I first got my P40 assembled. I don't like it. I reload 155 gr lead and it's much easier on the hand.

My new 38 snubby with 158 gr +P shoots smoother.

I will also add that a longer magazine really helps.
 

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I had the handall Jr on the one i had, but it has been several years ago. I was just wondering if there was anything new. It made a big difference on it.
 
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