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...I thought I might have to draw my gun in self defense.

I posted this on GlockTalk so I thought I'd post it here too.

Yesterday on the way home from work I had to stop to fill my truck up with diesel. I stopped at a large Texaco station on I-35 in North Austin / Pflugerville (the one at Grand Avenue Drive if you're familiar with it). The station is situated with about 8-10 vehicle pumps on the west side, 8-10 truck pumps on the south side and a large what I will call a "turn-around" area on the north side. I was filling up at the far north vehicle pump near the turn-around area when this occurred.

A late model white Ford F-150 pulled into the station at about 5:30 PM as I was filling up. There were two men in it. The truck drove through the lane opposite the pump I was at and proceeded to drive out into the turn-around area, where it stopped in the middle (where he stopped was about 30 yards from the store itself and about the same distance from me). When it stopped, a tall thin man about 6'-5" and weighing I'd guess 200 pounds stepped out of the passenger side of the truck. He had long dirty grayish colored hair and a very dark tan. Honestly, he looked like some of the homeless we have in the area.

I thought it was odd that the truck would stop there and even more so that the passenger would get out right there since there were parking spaces open immediately adjacent to the store entrance. When he got out he looked in my direction and begin walking towards the tailgate of my truck. I immediately became more alert because this man had no good reason to be walking towards my truck (which was between us at the time). I slipped my hand in my front pocket and gripped the grip of my P3AT (wishing I had my G22 but thankful I had the P3AT).

When he got within about 6 feet from the tailgate of my truck, he turned and went towards the trash can that was located about 6 feet from me. It appeared that he put something in the trash can, although I never saw anything in his hands. He then stood there, about 6 feet away from me, with his back towards me and facing the truck that he just got out of...his right hand holding the cigarette in his mouth and the left hanging at his side. I looked towards the guy driving the truck, who was looking at the man standing near me and the trash can. Not doing anything...just looking at each other.

Both pumps in the lane adjacent to mine were empty, so they were not waiting on me to finish fueling up. He stood there, facing the truck he got out of, appearing to be waiting for something. I was waiting too...although I didn't know what exactly I was waiting for. Just waiting...and ready.

Sensing something was up, I tightened my grip on the P3AT and on the pump handle that was filling my truck (the pump handle and hose was between me and him and I had already decided that if he made a rushing movement toward me I was going to douse his face with diesel fuel while drawing my P3AT and trying to put some space between us).

After standing there for approximately one minute, he did another peculiar thing. He turned around, grabbed the trashcan and moved it into the lane opposite the pump I was on...as if he didn't want any cars to pull up to that pump...almost like he was reserving it for his friend in the truck. Shortly after that, the truck pulled over into the lane NEXT to the lane he had just blocked and began filling up. The tall guy looked in my direction and then walked into the store.

About this time I finished filling up, got in my truck and left.

I really don't have a clue what this guy was up to. It was strange to me that he got out of the truck sort of out in the middle of "nowhere". It was strange that he immediately began walking towards me. It was strange that he pretended to throw something away (or maybe he actually did but I didn't see anything in his hand). It was strange that he stood there next to the trash can (6 ft. away from me) looking at the guy in the truck (who was looking back at him) for as long as he did. It was strange that he moved the trash can into the pumping lane, and then that his friend pulled into a different lane to fill up. Finally it was strange the way he looked at me and then just turned and walked in the store.

Maybe it was something, maybe it was nothing, but for the first time in my life I felt the need to actually prepare to draw if I needed to. Luckily I didn't.
 

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Sounded like he may have been deciding to do something to you. Maybe that's why they were watching each other. The dude had his back to you so you wouldn't feel threatened as his buddy watched and decided whether you'd be an easy mark.



Or maybe he was just a crazy crackhead.
 

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Well could be you looked them stright up in the eyes and not look down showing you were not a easy make and your body language said you were ready for what my come and would go down hard if they did try any thing . Im like adamky could have been after truck.




A person's body language can say alot.
 

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"Do Bads" intent upon nasty deeds study their prospective mark. Perhaps that's what they were doing to you and decided not to pursue after they watched you for awhile.

You were absolutely correct to watch them carefully. What you witnessed are called "Warning Signs". Pay strict attention and have a plan.....

Congratulation on not discovering their intent! ;D
 

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Good job on holding up that boy scout motto.
Glad it all worked out

Also sounds like you could be of some assistance to the PD if those guys got someone and the story ends up on the local news.

Rob
 

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Man my guts just twist up when I read stories like this. Glad you were on your toes and nothing actually happened!
 

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Maybe he wondered what you had in your pocket.
I like pocket carry for that reason. Had you needed to, you could have been shooting in under a second; since nothing happend, no one is any the wiser. 8)
 

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Glad you are safe and good job for situational awareness.

TxCajun said:
Maybe he wondered what you had in your pocket.
I like pocket carry for that reason.  Had you needed to, you could have been shooting in under a second; since nothing happend, no one is any the wiser.   8)
It sure makes me wonder about my preferred method of boot carry. If I was standing there at the pump I could not have reached into my boot and been ready like you were in your pocket...

-Scott
 

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Agreed! Boot carry makes a good BUG.
 

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Hosing the dude with fuel would have been a nice touch, it's always good to know how you can use the enviroment to your advantage. Plus it would probably be even better than soiling one's self as described in other topic. But certainly this shows why an armed population means safety for everyone, criminals (like everyone else) do not want an unsafe work enviroment. Having a confident, ready-to-roll customer may have saved the attendant's life.
 

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I had a gas pump situation around Christmas time - I was filling up and a van pulls into the pump next to me - guy gets out and walks over to the pump like he is going to get gas - maybe a little grungy looking but not like some homeless person - sort of dressed like he had been working all day - maybe a plumber or construction - all normal  stuff - I am filling up and washing my windshield and do not feel any threat.

Then the guy steps over in front of my vehicle and says - hey buddy want to buy an HDTV?  - its new - still in the box - I will give you a good deal.

I say - no thanks -  but at the same time notice the guy is wearing a  jacket - its 70 degrees - (I have on a T-shirt) - he also has one hand in his jacket pocket -

From the point in time where I felt no threat - until I recognized I may be robbed at gun point was only a couple of seconds - I also realize that I am some what trapped - my SUV on my right - gas pumps on my left - the hose filling up my vehicle behind me blocking a quick exit - standing there with a windshield washer/squeegee in my hand wondering why did I park so close to the pump.  

He then says - come take a look - its in the back of my van - its real nice - I'll sell it cheap - I  need the money.

In my best - leave me the hell alone voice - I say NO THANKS - as I  step back and open the door of my Tahoe (which at least put something between us) - I also  reach in my pocket and grab my P-3AT and pull it out of the holster - but still leave it 1/2 way in my pocket - he then says - I need gas money - can you spare 20 bucks?

I say - sorry - please leave me alone. He stands there for a couple seconds - but it seemed more like a couple minutes - I am looking right at him - he then walks over gets into his van and starts to drive away - I see a second guy  peeking out of the back window of the van.  

I also realize that some other car had just pulled up at the next pump over - I wonder if it was the car pulling in that scared him off - or was he just some guy that needed gas money - or some guy trying to sell stolen property - or  wanted to rob me - or maybe get me over to the back of the van where he had help waiting.

I will never know - but I do know-

Stuff  happens fast -  I pay close attention to what is going on around me -  but it is difficult to tell the difference between a normal situation - like some guy getting gas - and some thug moving in closer so they can rob you.


I also had the same feeling as Braden - I wished I had my PM9 in my pocket - but was glad I at least had the P-3AT.
 

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The bad guys I have known who robbed for a living were pretty good at reading the proposed victim. When you don't look easy they would find someone else who did. Trouble usually doesn't come to those who are ready for it.
 

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You would think that at least larger gas stations would have cameras on the pumps for drive-offs, and that BGs would know this. Then again, they aren't known for being Rhodes Scholars. Opening that door was a good move. 8)
 

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Thanks for all of the kind words fellas. I still don't know what these guys were up to and frankly I didn't want to stick around any longer than I had to in order to find out. If they WERE targeting me for something, I'm glad they changed their mind.
 
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