[atp]

I want to run the Fiocchi 60 grain JHP (currently available from SGAmmo.com) in my P32, so today I called Kel-Tec to order some of their P32-314 "Rim Lock Spacer" kits... But they told me they don't have any, and probably aren't ever going to make any more.

I found the instructions for installing the FlyerWire, but the entire ktrange.com website that hosted the instructions for making the FlyerWire is gone. Is there another page with the instructions somewhere? Can someone with the instructions repost them please?

Secondly, is there anywhere else I can buy a Kel-Tec P32-314 Rim Lock Spacer kit, or an alternative product that's ready to go, rather than building my own?

 

[theduke]

Is this what you want?

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/flyerwire.htm

 

[TheKuduKing]

I use that same Fiocchi 60 grain XTP ammo in my P32s on occasion. In 200+ rounds of it through several P32s, I've never experienced any kind of malfunction, let alone a rimrock type failure.

The OAL of that round is 0.945". FMJ ammo is 0.970 or there-abouts (eg. Fiocchi 73 grain FMJ is 0.968"). In my handloading forays for .32 Auto, I've found that rimrock ceases to be an issue once OAL gets beyond 0.925". That Fiocchi ammo is well beyond that.

There are some very short OAL .32 Auto rounds that can cause rimrock, that the "flyer wire" was designed to minimize. Examples are the Winchester 60 grain Silvertip at 0.910" and some Buffalo Bore rounds at 0.890". Once you install the flyer wire or rimrock prevention kit, you will be unable to load FMJ ammo into that magazine. In my view not worth the trouble using that modification. The incompatibility with standard .32 Auto FMJ is likely why Kel-Tec discontinued it.

Use the Fiocchi XTP and be happy with no added expense or trouble.

 

[CJP32]

That's probably the best 32acp jhp I've seen and the only one I'd even consider carrying.

If KuduKing is right on his measurements, and I'm sure he is, I would think it would be just fine without any kind of spacer.

I had rimlock myself with gold dots, they are about 0.90 OAL. That's much shorter than these Fiocchi jhps.

 

[atp]

I got out my caliper and took some cartridge overall length measurements (average in inches):

• 0.972 :Fiocchi Linea classic 7,65 Browning 60 gr FMJ: (.970, .969, .975, .973)
• 0.973 PU (Prvi Partizan) 32 Auto 71 gr JHP: (.974, .972, .972)
• 0.942 :Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics 32APHP 60 gr JHP: (.941, .943, .943)
• 0.920 MC Bronze 32B 60 gr JHP: (.922, .917, .920)
• 0.907 :Hornady Custom 32 Auto #90062 60 gr XTP Lot # 3141740: (.909, .908, .901, .908)

The Fiocchi JHP I have is marked "32APHP" on the box, not "32XTP", but externally, its bullet does looks identical to the XTP bullet used in the Hornady #90062 ammo. But Hornady loaded the bullet much deeper into the case! It is visually quite noticeable, the bullet in the Fiocchi 32APHP sticks out of the case much further.

 

[theduke]

I shot 100 rds of Winchester silvertips out of 2 different P32s with no rimlock. I carry mine with FMJs though.

 

[TheKuduKing]

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The Fiocchi JHP I have is marked "32APHP" on the box, not "32XTP", but externally, its bullet does looks identical to the XTP bullet used in the Hornady #90062 ammo. But Hornady loaded the bullet much deeper into the case! It is visually quite noticeable, the bullet in the Fiocchi 32APHP sticks out of the case much further.

It's the same Hornady 60 grain XTP bullet in both loads. Fiocchi very smart loading it longer. For some related info, I chronographed the Fiocchi 32APHP load in a P-32 last week:

Fiocchi 32APHP: 897 fps SD 30. 15 Yard 5-shot group 3.0". POI -0-