[Riley75j]

Just got my first keltec p3at.
It's a 2nd generation, urban camo.
The shop has a indoor range so I took it over and ran a few rounds through it. It's a bit snapper than I am use to But I'm use to a little bigger gun.
Had a rossi 352 and I liked it, shot good but no choice of grips so to speak of. This made it a little hard to conceal. They were on the large side.
I traded the rossi for,the keltec.
I have wanted a smaller more easy to conceal gun.
When I was trying it out I had some failure to eject, my thoughts are I wasn't holding on as good as I should.
It was always 5th round so on the last magazine I held on good and tight and all went as should.
Now that I know how it shoots it will get better.
I did order some of the adhesive grips for it.
I like the concealibity of this gun.

 

[jpshaw]

Congrats on your KT. I've had mine several years without a single failure but I admit I don't shoot it that much at each session.

 

[jonnin]

welcome & congrats on your new pistol!

 

[boomerweps]

It's called limpwristing. Because the firearm is so light, your hand, wrist, & arm need to hold it more firmly than a steel firearm to get the action to cycle properly. It goes away with practice.

 

[Riley75j]

It's called limpwristing. Because the firearm is so light, your hand, wrist, & arm need to hold it more firmly than a steel firearm to get the action to cycle properly. It goes away with practice.

That's what I was thinking, the rossi was 24 oz. Hardly noticed it, I'm get it right. Just have to get use to it.
Haven't shot anything other than a revolver in a while. I decided to go with revolvers when I strated to get a little arthritis in my left thumb, getting old is full of surprises.
Anyway the slide on this isn't too bad to rack.

 

[michael t]

Mine is 10 yrs old at least. Never had 1 problem with it.

 

[jonnin]

That's what I was thinking, the rossi was 24 oz. Hardly noticed it, I'm get it right. Just have to get use to it.
Haven't shot anything other than a revolver in a while. I decided to go with revolvers when I strated to get a little arthritis in my left thumb, getting old is full of surprises.
Anyway the slide on this isn't too bad to rack.

As you age you may find it hard to avoid the LW jams. One cure for that is to reduce the recoil spring a bit, 10-20% or so usually does it. This is hard on the gun if someone who CAN hold it perfectly rigid shoots it, but it solves the problem and keeps your weapon reliable if you have physical limitations. With a side bonus of racking the slider easier too.

 

[CJP32]

I would work on technique before messing with any of the springs. Once you do that it will be much harder to track any reliability issues. With a few hundred rounds they will lighten up a little anyway.

I would also suggest getting a spare mag or several, it's unlikely but that way you'll know it's not the problem. Also it's always good to have a reload or two.

It might be good to keep track of what ammo you are using and any issues you had with it. Once it's broken in I would suggest trying Critical Defense for carry ammo first, it's usually very reliable and I've found it to be accurate and light recoiling.

 

[jonnin]

I would work on technique before messing with any of the springs. Once you do that it will be much harder to track any reliability issues. With a few hundred rounds they will lighten up a little anyway.

I would also suggest getting a spare mag or several, it's unlikely but that way you'll know it's not the problem. Also it's always good to have a reload or two.

It might be good to keep track of what ammo you are using and any issues you had with it. Once it's broken in I would suggest trying Critical Defense for carry ammo first, it's usually very reliable and I've found it to be accurate and light recoiling.

Yes, the spring idea is a last resort esp. if you reduce them significantly (more than about 1 pound on most semis). It is easy and cheap enough to swap them back to the originals if you ever decide to go there. Its not an excuse to bypass holding the gun right, its really only if you truly cannot.

 

[CJP32]

Who makes reduced springs? I've only seen the Wolff springs with heavier weight.

 

[CJP32]

If you don't have any luck with the P3at a P32 might be the way to go. They are easier to shoot and tend to be more reliable. Just a thought.

 

[TxCajun]

It was always 5th round so on the last magazine I held on good and tight and all went as should.

When the mag nears empty the gun is at it's lightest, making it easier to limpwrist. Also, on the last mag, you are wearing down. I don't think you have much to worry about. Clean, lube, take it out and shoot it some more when you can.

 

[Riley75j]

When the mag nears empty the gun is at it's lightest, making it easier to limpwrist. Also, on the last mag, you are wearing down. I don't think you have much to worry about. Clean, lube, take it out and shoot it some more when you can.

I'll get it down, the last mag I ran through it went flawlessly, I know I just need to adjust to it.
I might be getting older but I'm not feeble yet.
Thanks for the reply.:rayof:

 

[Riley75j]

Just got my first keltec p3at.
It's a 2nd generation, urban camo.
The shop has a indoor range so I took it over and ran a few rounds through it. It's a bit snapper than I am use to But I'm use to a little bigger gun.
Had a rossi 352 and I liked it, shot good but no choice of grips so to speak of. This made it a little hard to conceal. They were on the large side.
I traded the rossi for,the keltec.
I have wanted a smaller more easy to conceal gun.
When I was trying it out I had some failure to eject, my thoughts are I wasn't holding on as good as I should.
It was always 5th round so on the last magazine I held on good and tight and all went as should.
Now that I know how it shoots it will get better.
I did order some of the adhesive grips for it.
I like the concealibity of this gun.

Time for a update, I broke down and ordered replacement extractor parts and they came today.
Took out the old one and compared the old with the new, the old one did look as if it was worn some, not as agresive. The old one appeared a little worn on the very tip.
Sorry no pictures. The gun was manufactured in 2011 so it could have seen some ware. Or maybe bad cleaning habits. Anyway it looks like it could be the problem.
Also have some replacement springs coming, factory strength.
Will have to see.

 

[Riley75j]

Time for a update, I broke down and ordered replacement extractor parts and they came today.
Took out the old one and compared the old with the new, the old one did look as if it was worn some, not as agresive. The old one appeared a little worn on the very tip.
Sorry no pictures. The gun was manufactured in 2011 so it could have seen some ware. Or maybe bad cleaning habits. Anyway it looks like it could be the problem.
Also have some replacement springs coming, factory strength.
Will have to see.

That was the fix, extractor and springs. Much better now.

 

[jonnin]

Who makes reduced springs? I've only seen the Wolff springs with heavier weight.

I don't have a p3at so I haven't looked... does not have to be stamped "kel tec". Just has to be the correct length and diameter. Can look at the offerings for other 380s. The only time I have done this was to enable shooting low power target handloads, and I kept the original springs if I want to go back to factory spec ammo. I started to do it on a glock but we sold it instead.