Federal Premium 'Personal Defense' Ammo?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by riverkeeper, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. riverkeeper

    riverkeeper New Member

    210
    Aug 30, 2006
    .380 90 gr Hydra Shok JHP
    muzzle velocity 1000 fps
    energy 200 ft lbs

    I've mostly carried Am Eagle FMJ for self defense for a while but the gun store guy sez these are 'the best' .... but the turnip truck is long gone.

    Do the penetration-expansion tests support anything like that? Recall Golden Sabers, DPX and a few others near the top of the pile ... can't recall this one even in the running.
     
  2. Rubb

    Rubb New Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    It's 100% reliable in MY gun and I've not seen enough
    evidence of a round that's so much better I'd be crazy
    not to switch so, I'm not.

    Penetration looks good.
    http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP.html

    Weight renention looks good also.
    http://stevespages.com/page8f380acp.html

    This is an older test but It was one that help in my decision
    a few years back.
    http://www.ktrange.com/articles/a10/a10-14.html

    When you think of a pocket gun you have to cosider humidity.
    Although HS was my carry round, this test convinced me to
    stick with it..Thanks wheelguy.
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1179005761;start=0#

    See Bobo's Links to .380 Ammo Tests it's a great list of compiled data.
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1199737660
     

  3. Account4Sale

    Account4Sale New Member

    3
    Jun 17, 2008
    AE FMJ and DPX in this baby.

    A4S
     
  4. riverkeeper

    riverkeeper New Member

    210
    Aug 30, 2006
    Rubb--
    Thanks for your help.  Explanation for not finding it myself = one eye still has a sewn in cornea transplant and the other needs one too.  I tried first.   :cool:

    I'm going to try some ... the only other 'fancy' SD ammo I've used in 380 is the speer GD and it appears the Federal is slightly better. Federal is local but the others are now distant supply.

    Best!
     
  5. Rubb

    Rubb New Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    riverkeeper,

    You're welcome, same type of answer I would have liked if I'd asked.
    This is what KTOG is about ;)

    Get well :)
     
  6. redintex

    redintex New Member

    31
    May 15, 2008
    Good accuracy for me - manageable recoil - fed without any problems!
     
  7. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    The Federal load averaged 881 fps out of my p3at and expanded to around .48" in wetpack & around 7" penetration for whatever that's worth. :)
     
  8. c0wboi38

    c0wboi38 New Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    Corbon DPX here.

    ;)
     
  9. Rubb

    Rubb New Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    And do you have results from other rounds tested, if any?
     
  10. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    WWB fmj 806fps  9" no exp.
    Rem GS 787 fps  7-9" .4"- no exp. on 1/2 rds shot- ones not expanded penetrated deepest.
    CB DPX 1020fps 7"  .65"
    Rem 88gr. jhp 862fps 8" no exp.

    All fired into 24 hr. soaked newsprint covered w/denim & terry cloth. Big mystery to me is GS. Seen higher velocities than I got reported by others( up to 855fps) &  more consistent expansion? Wetpack used was like pulp and from what I've read on Stopping Power forum gives expansion results consistent w/balistic gell but less penetration. More I learn, less I know?
     
  11. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    Texas
    I believed the "standard" for comparing results from a properly prepared wetpact to ballistic gel are to multiply the penetration into the wetpack by 3/2.

    So, that would yield:

    WWB - 13.5"

    Rem GS - 10.5" - 13.5"

    Cor DPX - 10.5"

    Rem JHP - 12"

    Thanks for sharing.  :cool:
     
  12. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    Yep, think I read same thing on "Stopping Power Forum". Used nothing but newsprint and soaked for 24 hrs. It was dripping wet when shot. Didn't get quite the same results as the "meat, noddle & wet paperback" test. :-/