I got two fired cases with my Rohrbaugh R9S and one with my Ruger LCP but none with any of my six KelTecs or Seecamp.3wbdriver said:Some states require it, some don't. The ones that don't may be discarding them instead of leaving them in the boxes. It's depended on which gun store I was buying in down here as to whether I got one or not.
Actually, and I do know a little something about this, what happens is that when I get a firearm from the distributor and there is NO COBIS shells in the case, I call the local state police testing unit, and they send over an officer and take the gun to be COBIS tested. They test fire the gun, and return it with the shells in the envelope, and a statement with the firearm of the date, time, and testers name.Cadapult said:Kel-Tec not supplying a fired round with each pistol might explain why they're pretty hard to come by, at least where I live in NY. Albany (the bastards) requires a fired case on file, so any pistol not supplied with one has to be fired by the State Police and the casing sent to Albany (where the bastards are). The distributors have to pay to have this done, and take the time to do it. Low cost pistols = low profit margin = distributors not so keen on having it done. Just try to find a Hi-Point pistol where I live. Maybe you wouldn't *want* to find one, but even if you wanted to, you pretty much can't, thanks to Albany (home of the bastards).
The brilliant idea of a case as a fingerprint works so well because nobody could *ever* polish the chamber on their pistol, and replacement firing pins and extractors are both impossible to obtain and impossible to install by mere mortals. I can't wait until the brain trust in Albany (did I mention they're bastards?) requires micro engraving of serial numbers on the tips of all firing pins, since it is a proven fact criminals do not know how to use sandpaper. It was recently proposed in Albany, as a safety measure "for the children", to require all firearms, new and old, to be modified to have a minimum twenty pound trigger pull. No joke. When someone asked a proponent of the bill 'What about the elderly, who don't have the strength to pull a twenty pound trigger?" the reply was, in effect, "Tough sh*t". November is coming, and I hope housecleaning gets done.
Sorry about the rant. I live in a perfectly lovely state, it's just run by downstate morons. And Kel-Tecs can be hard to find, and that makes me irritable. >
Nope. The system as implemented is a total and absolute failure. All it does is spend money. As is every other no good *** forsaken politician is good at in this state.clint_lnl said:now for another question.
Has a Fired case that is required for trace purposes in some states EVER been used to solve a crime?
I'm glad that this isn't yet another way to price gun ownership out of the reach of many people, but there most definitely IS a charge for this service. I doubt the police who do the testing volunteer to do it in their spare time, and even if they did, they would be the ones paying for the testing. I know your taxes are higher than mine, and it's needed to pay for big government nonsense like this. I know you know this, but I felt that I needed to post to make sure nobody thought the government in New York was doing free testing.virtual-rjhauser said:They test fire the gun, and return it with the shells in the envelope, and a statement with the firearm of the date, time, and testers name. There has never been a fee for this service, that I have ever been charged.
You seem to be discounting the possibility that the real purpose of the program is simply to spend tax dollars. Governments love spending tax dollars. It's what they do. It's how they grow and become more powerful. As long as government is growing, the best we can hope for is that they waste money on stupid stuff that doesn't infringe on individual rights, but usually they spend your tax dollars in a way that makes it more difficult, expensive and time consuming for you to buy a gun.virtual-rjhauser said:The system as implemented is a total and absolute failure. All it does is spend money.
A dealer I spoke with told me there was a charge to have the troopers fire the pistol and file the paperwork, and he had to make an appointment, etc. He may have been telling a story to try and boost the price of a pistol I had wanted him to order (not a Hi-Point ).virtual-rjhauser said:There has never been a fee for this service, that I have ever been charged. It just adds a week to the turn around time to put the gun out for sale.
And if you want a hi-point, I know where there are 6 different ones for sale right now, and a whole lot of kel-tecs the last time I looked in the display case.
YMMV, believe or not. The choice is yours