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As an experiment I carried the PMR last week in place of my Gen 1 Walther PPS which is a single stack 9mm similar to the S&W Shield. Of course the PMR is much larger but actually noticably lighter. I weighed them both and the PPS was 1.5lb to the PMR at 1.15lb both loaded. That would be 6 rounds for the PPS and I carry 25 in the PMR partially because it is exactly half a box of ammo.

I carried the PMR in a leather Gould & Goodrich IWB holster I originally bought for a Glock 26 but it fits the longer models as well. It fit the PMR like a glove. Some observations I made were that I can conceal it OK at 2:30 with a forward cant. It does present some issues when sitting sometimes in form fitting car seats, riding mowers, etc. due to the long length which is exacerbated by the fact that I have the 5" barrel with the Buck Rogers flash suppressor installed. I figure if I ever do have to shoot it without hearing protection I want that thing on there to direct the blast forward.

On the plus side it is nice not to have to worry about carrying an extra mag, and it is so light that running, etc. does not feel like anything is going to come loose. Some of the 30gr ammo (MaxiMag, etc.) generates 200 ftlbs of energy which is in the ballpark of standard .380 SD rounds so I didn't feel that under gunned. I feel like the full grip, low recoil, and huge capacity of the PMR go a long way to make up for what the 22mag round lacks in raw stopping power.

I haven't decided that it will replace my PPS however, primarily due to the comfort issues I described while sitting, but it was an interesting experiment and I now know that I can do it when/if the need or even just the desire arises.

Anyone else successfully conceal the PMR as an EDC?
 

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Can you give us the model number of the holster? I'd like to try it.

I open carry my PMR and love it. I have a custom made Kydex holster and when it's on the belt I cannot tell it's there. I would like to try it concealed.
 

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I love my PMR and find that 30 rounds is a lot of firepower, but If I'm going to carry something concealed It's got be reliable. My carry is a .380 S&W bodyguard with laser. Do you want to get into a self defense situation with a rimfire or centerfire pistol. My PMR will FTF about once every 5 mags. That's pretty good. My FN 5.7 has never failed to fire after hundreds of rounds and I think that's even better. Think of it this way, if you only had 1 round left and your life depended on it what would you chose a rimfire or center fire pistol. My S&W .380 sits in a desantis pocket holster in my back pocket. My second choice is my FN 5.7 with armor piercing ammo. FN is a lot bigger and heavier. I'm not bashing the PMR, I would never sell mine. I just don't think it's the best concealed carry for me.
 

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Can you give us the model number of the holster? I'd like to try it.

I open carry my PMR and love it. I have a custom made Kydex holster and when it's on the belt I cannot tell it's there. I would like to try it concealed.
Looks like it's 390 G. I don't think I'll continue to use it though because there is no sweat guard so the safety screws and the front of the slide that is exposed both get wet in the heat and the screws have already started to rust.
 

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I love my PMR and find that 30 rounds is a lot of firepower, but If I'm going to carry something concealed It's got be reliable. My carry is a .380 S&W bodyguard with laser. Do you want to get into a self defense situation with a rimfire or centerfire pistol. My PMR will FTF about once every 5 mags. That's pretty good. My FN 5.7 has never failed to fire after hundreds of rounds and I think that's even better. Think of it this way, if you only had 1 round left and your life depended on it what would you chose a rimfire or center fire pistol. My S&W .380 sits in a desantis pocket holster in my back pocket. My second choice is my FN 5.7 with armor piercing ammo. FN is a lot bigger and heavier. I'm not bashing the PMR, I would never sell mine. I just don't think it's the best concealed carry for me.
Yes it needs to be reliable but when I consider the myriad of variables that will determine the outcome of such an event I realize that demanding 99.99% vs 99.5% reliability in my weapon is unlikely to be the deciding factor as to whether I survive. I don't plan on concealing it very often but I like to know that it can be done relatively easily. In fact I might get a kydex IWB with sweat guard made for it.
 

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Yes it needs to be reliable but when I consider the myriad of variables that will determine the outcome of such an event I realize that demanding 99.99% vs 99.5% reliability in my weapon is unlikely to be the deciding factor as to whether I survive. I don't plan on concealing it very often but I like to know that it can be done relatively easily. In fact I might get a kydex IWB with sweat guard made for it.
CLICK........:eek:
 

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What are the odds of EVER needing to pull your weapon? Combine that with the chances of pulling your PMR30 and it going click vs. bang 30 times. Carry what you want, free world. I know ALOT of people that ccw, none have ever came close to having to pull the weapon out. I ccw a Sig P938 more than anything, but would carry my PMR in a heartbeat.
 

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Not sure I would ever carry my PMR concealed. I purchased this weapon for my safe room. I figured with 30 rounds of firepower, my wife will have a good chance of nailing an intruder. Memphis area has lots of intruders.
My concealed carry is my trusty Glock 33. I love the knockdown power of the .357 Sig.
 

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Not sure I would ever carry my PMR concealed. I purchased this weapon for my safe room. I figured with 30 rounds of firepower, my wife will have a good chance of nailing an intruder. Memphis area has lots of intruders.
My concealed carry is my trusty Glock 33. I love the knockdown power of the .357 Sig.
That same 30 rounds of firepower could come in handy outside the home as well. I'm a fan of the 357SIG also, but since I got a 9mm suppressor I'm more interested now in slow and heavy bullets than light and fast ones. I don't carry the PMR regularly, my EDC is a PPS, but I do occasionally for S&Gs. Any gun is 99% better than no gun, and no handgun has "knockdown power". A shotgun might if the BG was off balance! ;)
 

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I daily carried my PMR in a very comfortable Alien Gear IWB holster. They have even made a few improvements since I bought mine. But I recently bought a G19 9mm and just bought and replaced just the outside/molded kydex for under 20 bucks.

But I am considering buying a new one, because of the improvements. But the one I have is very comfortable. I'm keeping both so if I want to carry my PMR, I still can. But Alien Gear gives a lifetime guarantee. If you change guns, you can send the old mold in for a new one for your new gun. I decided to keep both so the replacement was cheap.
 

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I have been giving serious consideration to conceal carry of th pmr30. What's not to like? I am going through reliability testing right now. Nothing major to report there. Has anyone ever lifted their hearing protection slightly to hear what this round sounds like? I did the other day. Brutally loud and sharp. Didn't cause prolonged ringing but I would find it hard to tolerate more than a couple of rounds before possibly in capaciting everyone close to the gun. My glock 22 9mm conversion sounded super mild after that. Heck if you don't wound the BG I am sure he will turn and run as his ear drums would be bleeding.
 

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I have been giving serious consideration to conceal carry of th pmr30. What's not to like? I am going through reliability testing right now. Nothing major to report there. Has anyone ever lifted their hearing protection slightly to hear what this round sounds like? I did the other day. Brutally loud and sharp. Didn't cause prolonged ringing but I would find it hard to tolerate more than a couple of rounds before possibly in capaciting everyone close to the gun. My glock 22 9mm conversion sounded super mild after that. Heck if you don't wound the BG I am sure he will turn and run as his ear drums would be bleeding.
The ear splitting noise is the biggest thing that keeps me from seriously considering it for a daily carry. Since I believe it mainly comes from the unburned powder igniting outside the barrel I wonder if the short barrel factory ammo would be quieter? I also bought the longer barrel with the blast deflector on it to direct at least some of it forward but it is still loud as hell.
 

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Two things:

1) Alien Gear IWB Holster.

2) It's very loud at the range. However, in an emergency, I've found I don't hear it.

When practicing, earplugs always. I have custom molded ear plugs.
 
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