Clearing the breech

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by mopac, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. mopac

    mopac New Member

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    Dec 28, 2005
    I carry the P-3AT as my CCW, with one in the chamber.  I like to clean it about once a month.  I drop the magazine, pull back on the slide to clear the chamber but can never get this round out as it always jams and I have to dig it out.  Shouldn't this round just pop out when I pull the slide back, or is what I'm experiencing normal?  Maybe it's not coming out due to to the round not being fired and the extra length on the front end?.
     
  2. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    more than likely the slide is not being pulled all the way back when you clear the chamber.

    I know the amount of clearance between barrel and slide on the P32 is just larger than the longest bullet that could be feed from magazine. several people have posted similair questions about P32

    I haven't check the P3T that close since clearing problems have not been posted.

    suggest assembling pistol with out recoil springs and place a round between pulled back slide and barrel and see if there is any clearance.

    If you are positiveyou will not pull the trigger, you could clear a few rounds with springs removed
    However Don't fire a round with out springs
     

  3. keystoneman

    keystoneman New Member

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    Aug 12, 2009
    My p3at is my backup gun. When I get home I always remove from my pocket and its holster and drop the mag, rack the slid and the one in the chamber flys out like in any other gun. (ps. my glock stays loaded on the night stand). Is it possible your not pulling the slide back the whole way? Or not racking it in a smooth motion? Is the gun level when you do this?
     
  4. vn6869

    vn6869 New Member

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    Jul 31, 2009
    yeah, it sounds like failure to pull the slide all the way back.

    Does the gun function fire OK?
     
  5. RAT76

    RAT76 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2006
    Oklahoma
    I almost never get the round to jump out the ejection port. They usually drop down thru the mag well. I know I'm not yanking the slide to the rear. That's why they don't eject normally. ;)
     
  6. raymac1215

    raymac1215 New Member

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    Dec 31, 2008
    I tilt the weapon to the ejection side, pull the slide back quickly and fully and the round ejects everytime for me. Try tilting it a little so the round can drop out. Good luck.
     
  7. vn6869

    vn6869 New Member

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    Jul 31, 2009
    I generally have my hand over the ejection port when clearing - that's why they drop through the mag well.
    But just cause I'm too lazy to chase them. :cool:
     
  8. prototype7

    prototype7 New Member

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    Jun 30, 2009
    is it possible that the extractor screw is loose?
     
  9. Hoopster

    Hoopster New Member

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    Jan 10, 2009
    Has your chamber been fluffed and buffed? Does it jam at all when firing? I always tilt the gun almost upside down, cupping the hand I'm racking with I catch the round as it falls out. Sometimes I might have to jiggle and shake it a little but if the slide's pulled all the way back it works.
     
  10. Bobo

    Bobo Active Member Supporter

    Jun 13, 2005
    Could it be your ejector is missing?

    Bobo
     
  11. mopac

    mopac New Member

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    Dec 28, 2005
    Thanks guys for all of your suggestions, but I'm beginning to think that since I've had the whole slide assembly nickel plated , my hand is slipping and I'm not getting the slide all the way back.  I also feel that my springs are a little stiffer since adding the washer, maybe I just have to shoot it a lttle more to loosen things up.  I haven't shot it as much as I would have liked to due to the ammo situation.
     
  12. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    adding the nylon washer, even with fitting to the tapper of the bottom of the hole in the slide, could (will) result in the factroy springs going solid before the slide contacts the frame. this could stop you from pulling the slide all the way back. you should perform the observation of this by looking through the grip. I like to make an observation with the springs removed to ensure I can distingish when slide/frame contact is made.

    if the installation of the washer causes the springs to go coil to coil prematurely, during firing it is very likely the coils will be forced over another and a coil deformation be observed during disassembly.

    the solid coil lenght of the Wolff were less than the factory and the only reason I left one installed after my little evaluation (see sticky)