Somebody help me if the photo doesn't show, I swear I am clueless with photos but thought this may be of interest. Did a interesting test today. I bought a 5inch thick butt roast with a bone running down the middle, a huge round bone. The edges around the bone were about 4 inches. Anybody that has seen a roast knows the meat isn't as dense as a ham. I placed that on top of 3 inches of cooked Fettucine. I placed that in a cardboard box. I then put that box on top of a another box containing a soaked phone book. I should have photos of my setup and the pork butt, but I forgot to. I was being eaten by bugs. I started off shooting regular 90 grain speer gold dots. These are snappy little bullets. I shot on the edge so it is going through 4" of roast. The entance hole was pretty large, about 3/4 inch. The round penetrated the butt completely, and through the pasta, and ended up an inch into the wet phone book. Expanded but did lose some weight and jacket. That is the bullet on the far left. Pretty nice. Overall penetration was 7 3/4 inches. Next up were Buffalo bore hot loads, 90 grains advertised at 1100 FPS in a KT/LCP. Those are the middle two bullets. This is a handful. It blasted an inch and a half entrance wound, moved the entire box setup, and went in 8 inches. It blows off chunks of meat. The recovered bullets are starting to tear apart badly. Not good. I shot one Buffalo bore into the thickest meat, it went in 5 inches, hit bone, shattered the bone into shards and the bullet completely disintegrated. Hard to control for quick followups, this round felt like shooting a magsafe or some similar frangible. Awesome wound track, but the bullets DO tear themselves apart going as fast as they are. Next was 102 grain Golden Sabers. Mild recoil compared, small would track, the entrance was about a half an inch. It penetrated through 4 inches of meat, 3 inches of pasta, and would stop in the first quarter inch of phone book. So about 7 1/4- 7-1/2 inches. Uniform expansion on every round as the 4 bullets show on the right side of the photo. I shot one into the thickest part of the butt, it also hit the bone after 5 inches. The bone again stopped the round, however the GS did break it clean in two and the bullet was recovered fully intact. Last was the old Federal HI shok 90 grainers. Did not expand at all, recovered bullet has a clogged nose, however it went an incredible 4 inches into the phone book for 11 inches total pentetration going through a roast, pasta, cardboard, and a phone book. That round is up front in the photo. So I am torn between what to carry. I cannot deny the awesome power of the Buffalo bore, but the gold dots tear themselves apart, and the one that hit bone totally blew part at 5 inches. The Golden Sabers don't look that impressive until you recover the heavy 102 grain bullets. The wound track isn't half what the Buffalo bore gold dots are. But they go in almost as deep and do expand and hold together. You can see the recovered sabers look like they weight twice what the dots weigh. Food for thought( pun), but I think I have to lean toward the Sabers, it is a close call.