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Hey gang,
I just got a California Compliant Sub 2000 Gen 2 and am looking for a Bullet Button tool for it. Any California owners out there with some advice (other than to move out of California! ;-)?
Thank you!
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All current guns with the "Bullet Button" will be illegal in Cal. next yr!

Since guns with bullet buttons did not technically have detachable magazines, they could legally include the features that offended the sensibilities of California legislators.

Gun controllers saw that creative solution as an outrageous loophole, which they sought to close with S.B. 880 (a.k.a. A.B. 1135). The new law makes any of the six detested features illegal on a gun "that does not have a fixed magazine," and it defines "fixed magazine" as "an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action!
 

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SLIM, you'll be able to register them as Assault Weapons and keep them (with restrictions on sale meaning none in-state, and transport/use).

Hoosier, it's a device that prevents you from removing the magazine without a tool (typically a bullet) but the hole in the Sub2000 ones is too small for even a 5.56 cartridge.
 

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Just like Junkie said and if you don't live in CA don't worry about it. :)
Thanks!! Glad I am in Michigan. But some dang legislator is trying to get a bill banning mags more than 10 rounds and assault rifles. I don't think it has a chance of passing as there are a lot of pro gun members in the State House.
 

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All current guns with the "Bullet Button" will be illegal in Cal. next yr!

Since guns with bullet buttons did not technically have detachable magazines, they could legally include the features that offended the sensibilities of California legislators.

Gun controllers saw that creative solution as an outrageous loophole, which they sought to close with S.B. 880 (a.k.a. A.B. 1135). The new law makes any of the six detested features illegal on a gun "that does not have a fixed magazine," and it defines "fixed magazine" as "an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action!
And the creator of the original bullet button has already come out with a legal workaround. Just like others did when the northeastern states went on their tear.

http://www.bulletbutton.com
 

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Not sure how they'd do that on a Sub2000 though.

I thought of something that might qualify though: a device that covers the mag release and is attached to the forend. Pull the trigger guard, start to fold the gun, and you have access. Obviously it'll need some ribs and nubs so you can't just press the whole thing as the mag release.
 

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Heh... everytime I see this I think "some people calls it a bullet button, I calls it a trigger".
Haha. Funny!
It seems like the market is too small for anyone to make a bullet button tool for the sub 2000. I'm not looking for the bullet button itself, I'm looking for the tool to insert into the bullet button to release the magazine, because the actual 9mm bullet is too big, and a paper clip seems like a stupid thing to trust my life to. Haha.
I guess I'll have to make something.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions!
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Try different size allen wrenches until you get one that is decently sized but small enough to fit. It seems to me someone used to make a finger ring that had a pin on it for this purpose.
 

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Try different size allen wrenches until you get one that is decently sized but small enough to fit. It seems to me someone used to make a finger ring that had a pin on it for this purpose.
Good idea. I will try to make something that makes shooting this gun as fun as it should be. My Arsenal SAM7 kinda sucks to shoot because of the horrible bullet button they use. It's the worst one ever! No easy way to change mags! It seems like Arsenal is taking out their anger at California on us customers!

Thanks again!
 
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