Buffalo Bore concerns?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by tommy51s, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. tommy51s

    tommy51s New Member

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    Oct 10, 2007
    Kansas City
    I guess I live in the dark, but until seeing it in a couple of recent P-3AT threads here I didn't realize how hot Buffalo Bore ammo is. Is there any risk with putting a lot of that stuff throught the P3, since the P3 design is already pushing the envelope on performance in a small package? Maybe just using BB GD for carry wouldn't be overdoing it.
     
  2. CJP32

    CJP32 Active Member

    Jul 24, 2008
    I have wondered the same thing. I don't know if +P actually is rated for the 380 but I doubt there would be an issue with "limited use". I don't think they would list the fps out of a P3AT if it was unsafe to shoot. Hopefully someone here has tried the BB in theirs and can give some first hand information. I plan on testing the Critical Defence and the BB gold dots in my P3 when I can find them.

    CJ
     

  3. road_king

    road_king New Member

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    Jan 2, 2008
    I received a box for the BB 27C/20 90 gr. Spear G.D.J.H.C (1175 fps/M.E.267 Ft.Lbs) yesterday. I only fired 3 rounds this morning - loud and probably more recoil - I'm not recoil sensitive to a point - it sure explodes a gal jug of water!

    From what I read, the P3at is the perfect gun for this round. It's not like I'm going to shoot hundreds of this rounds of this expensive ammo. I wanted to try the BB +p in my Seacamp .32 and after talking to BB decided to sell that gun and go with a Kel-Tec .32 or .380 - the Kel-tec are low cost but have supported chambers which make them safer than the Secamp - BB sold their two Seacamp's they had to test this new ammo - one more reason not to buy a used gun!

    I'll practice with practice ammo and carry with a personal defense round. This gun is a last resort weapon and if it is ever needed, I'll be happy if it lasts 6 or 7 rounds!

    I do have the bike tube grip covering - the trigger still hurts my finger - I felt that pain a little more with the +P. :)
     
  4. kbizzle

    kbizzle New Member

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    Oct 21, 2008
    i've now fired only 20 rounds of the BB 90 gr JHP and i had split it up into 2 different range sessions.  the BB hurts my trigger finger after 10 rounds (but that's okay with me!).  last week i emptied my magazine of 8 BB rounds that i'd been carrying for the past couple of months.  the gun and all 8 rounds functioned perfectly.  i could sure tell a difference between the first 8 BB rounds and the next 70 winchester white box FMJ rounds!  the BB is louder and generates more felt recoil and i think it's gotta be one of the hardest hitting rounds for the P3AT.  
     
  5. WyoShooter

    WyoShooter New Member

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    Nov 22, 2008
    But, I presume you'll at least run several magazines of your carry ammo through the pistol at the range to verify that it feeds reliably when you're depending on it. :)

    Ed
     
  6. Texas_Red

    Texas_Red New Member

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    Aug 5, 2008
    I ran a magazine of the 100gr hardcast BB rounds through my new P-3AT yesterday. It cycled w/o protest and to be honest, I couldn't tell THAT much difference from the WWB and Rem UMC fmj in terms of noise and recoil. It seemed slightly hotter, but not enough to concern me. The Kel-Tec manual says the "P3AT will accept +P ammunition, but not with continuous use."

    So, the BB will be one of my carry rounds, but the P3AT will get mostly WWB and UMC hardballs when I practice with it. I think that's a good way to manage most handguns, not just Kel-Tecs.
     
  7. adamsesq

    adamsesq New Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    Now I am intrigued and will go look but I thought that was only in the 9mm manuals.  I thought there was no +p specs for .380 so therefore KT did not recommend it???

    ETA - right there on the top of page 3. Learn something new every day! Thanks.

    -Scott
     
  8. Texas_Red

    Texas_Red New Member

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    Aug 5, 2008
    I just got my new P-3AT less than two weeks ago. That statement in the instruction manual could be a recent addition. In any case, mine did fine, which I expected it would. And I'm glad that Buffalo Bore has decided to market some stiffer ammo for this little pocket rocket, too.
     
  9. road_king

    road_king New Member

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    Jan 2, 2008
    But, I presume you'll at least run several magazines of your carry ammo through the pistol at the range to verify that it feeds reliably when you're depending on it. :)

    Ed[/quote]

    We put it to the test - BB and practice - four of us shooting it today!
     
  10. kbizzle

    kbizzle New Member

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    Oct 21, 2008
    i think it's a lot of fun to shoot - just wish i could afford more of it!
     
  11. billjohnso20

    billjohnso20 Active Member

    Dec 7, 2008
    I haven't tried the BB ammo. At a dollar a round at Cabela's, I can't justify it when other less expensive and very effective ammo exists. I lean toward the Rem Golden Saber in my LCP and Wolf Brass HPs that are a Federal Hydroshock copy in my P3AT. Anyway, I put more stock in shot placement than anything else. One day I will try the BB ammo. If it's accurate then I'll probably switch carry ammo but for now, I'll stick with what works.
     
  12. gapman

    gapman New Member

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    Feb 27, 2009
    dang the factory loaded stuff hurts my wrist already. i dont think i could handle some +p stuff. of course i guess it wouldnt matter in a SD situation. i may have to pick some of the BB up and try it just to find out what there is to see
    john