adamsesq said:
... "when" a NEGLIGENT discharge happens...
We have heard story after story of it happening in real life (2 in the last couple of weeks right here on this board.)
Sorry Scott; in the interest of accuracy I have to call BS on this claim before rumors get started. You are posting this in a P3AT belt clip thread, and your opinion on this matter is well known.
For the record folks, we have exactly ZERO reported ADs with any kel-tec pistol that I am aware of.
In fact, the only P3AT incidents of which I am aware is that legislator that shot into a bullet proof vest hanging on the door of his office. He claimed the gun went off when he pressed the mag release, or something equally false and stupid. Yea, right. Then a member here was recently messing around with his P3AT and shot his microwave oven. IIRC, he thought he had snapcaps in it, or something like that. Those were not accidental discharges (AD). They were negligent discharges (ND) and were both 100% not related to the belt clip issue in any way, shape or form. Nor have I heard of "story after story of it happening in real life", and I don't miss too many threads around here.
adamsesq said:
Sorry, that dog won't hunt here. Not only was this not an AD or a ND, there was
no discharge at all. It would appear that the long, double action, 6 lb trigger pull did it's job and prevented the ND. A lesser design might have resulted in a very bad ending.
adamsesq said:
This wasn't even a Kel-tec and no belt clip was involved. If you see my post in this thread, it is most likely that this was a striker fired, single action AMT 380 that was totally loose in someones back pocket. The discharge was the result of 100% negligence on the owners part, on several levels.
I am not advocating the use of a belt clip. Let me be clear. I don't have any belt clips on my personal guns. With a holster, I think they are redundant, useless and violate the KISS principle. Without a holster, I would be uncomfortable for constant carry. However, I could see where they could be a functional accessory. Going out to the mailbox? Clip that P3 in your pocket. Taking a drive? Clip one on your visor. LEOs, making a house call on a felon? Clip one between your t-shirt and your bullet proof vest. As a backup, clip one in your cowboy boot.
What I do advocate is keeping the information that we disseminate on ktog as accurate as possible. This site is considered by most to the be number one source for accurate information on Kel-tecs. I'd like to keep it that way. Under no circumstances will this be the forum where Kel-tec accidental discharge rumors get started on the internet.