ATTENTION: AVOID PURCHASING P3AT UNTIL FIXED

There must be some design flaw or defect with the 2nd generation P3AT.  Enough with the limp wrist talk or finding the right ammo to your gun.  There is plenty of evidence on the web and even acknowledgement from KT tech support of this issue.  I strongly advise you to avoid this unreliable pistol until this issue is corrected.
For the record, KT customer service is great.  I purchased my P3AT is 08 with the FTE issue and returned it for service.  Then after trying many different types of ammo, verifying that I’m not “limp wristing” and doing the fluff/buff, I returned it again this year in March.  I requested a fix or replacement and KT CS responded quickly with a replacement.  Again, great CS.
Got the new gun, did the fluff/buff and went to the range with factory Remington plus Federal.  Shot 100 rounds FMJ plus 13 JHP I would use for carry.  Had 20 FTEs out of the 113 rounds.  Called KT CS who were very cooperative, acknowledge they are hearing more and more complaints of this issue and are mailing me a new extractor.
While waiting and researching I came to a thread explaining an extractor mod to address this FTE issue which I did.  Went back to the range with more Remington FMJ and Federal JHP.  Had 16 FTE out of 100 rounds.
Below are some pics from my pistol and a video link on YouTube showing the exact issue I and everyone else is talking about.
Until this issue is corrected, avoid the 2nd generation P3AT.

http://s460.photobucket.com/albums/qq326/Second_Life_images/P3AT/

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlXylQSaBM[/ame]

 

OK princemorr2003,

This is my 2nd lemon from KT or didn't you read my post completely.  Even KT is acknowledging this is a problem now so it isn't just an unhappy person.  

I'm posting this because I will inform others to protect thier families with a RELIABLE pistol.

Read me post, see that I do appreciate KT CS and my P3AT.  BUT THERE IS AN ISSUE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT AND IT IS BEING REPORTED MORE OFTEN NOW.

Stop posturing and be a concerned fellow KT owner and help others.

 

Thanks JFB for showing how you and other's are still blaming the user.

Is Federal, Remington, Winchester, Hyda-Shok and Gold Dots cheap and unreliable ammo?

Even KT CS says the pistol shouldn't have any issues with the ammo I've been using.  But I'm sure you know more than the manufacturer does.

Also, here's my exact quote without your editing: "I strongly advise you to avoid this unreliable pistol [highlight]until this issue is corrected[/highlight]"

 

Now comes virtual-rjhauser,

Again, I'm posting this to inform my fellow and potential fellow P3AT owner's of a reliability issue.

Why are you and the other "oldtimers" calling me names and not assisting to correct this concern?

Don't  you care about other people or just call everyone who is trying to help others "whining?" You just stated, "do you realize how many of these guns are out there, and how many problems are reported? that probably amounts to less than 1%." How do you know this and why would state such unknown facts?

Look at the posts, videos and, again, KT is hearing more and more about it.  Even the gun shops are telling customer's about the FTEs.

 

Thanks CJP32 for your input,

I appreciate your honesty about reliability.

My post is about many others reporting an FTE issue not just me.

Your statement, "KT sells quite a few of them and I would guess that 98% don't have any problems right out of the box," is just a guess which is miss-leading. This is a problem that is rearing its head.

 

Reply to princemorr2003,

"99.99% people that buy this gun will never have a problem." Please stop stating miss-leading statements. [highlight]If we don't acknowledge current field input and work together for all than what is this forum about?[/highlight]
Yes I have 4 factory mags that I switch around, no I'm not limp wristing, yes I use factory quality ammo, did F&B on both the old and replaced 2nd gen P3AT. Couldn't it really be a defect or manufacturing issue like all the other owner's are reporting more and more with the 2nd gen to KT and on the web?

 

Directly from KT CS representative when I called about this issue and servicing. Is that acceptable JFB?

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where can one find supporting info




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Now comes haugrdr,

Yeah, after respecting the advice given to me as a new KT owner by this forums "Grand Whatevers," I did believe it was me and did try everything else.  But after time went by and more and more reports are showing up - yeah it could be a manufacturing issue.  Why are you and the other senior members so resistant to that?

Ya must have changed your mind in the last 3 years.   Hmmmm....    :-/[/quote]