Not a lawyer but +1 to the above post.bluesdog1 said:I would think a modified trigger in this way could cause legal headaches if you have to shoot someone in self defense. A lightened trigger could look as bad "intent".
I do not agree with this but it does open you up to additional risk if prosecutor or BG family wanted to go after you - just sayin'.
Bluesdog
I know it's an old thread but Glock's are among the safest handguns out there. They absolutely can not go off unless the trigger is pulled. If people shoot themselves while holstering, their finger was on the trigger. The finger should never be on the trigger of ANY gun unless you are about to shoot it. Then when done it should scoot back out along the slide/frame.billjohnso20 said:The relatively long trigger pull is the safety feature of this gun. The law frowns on modified safety features. Besides, the last place I want my P3AT going off is as I'm putting it in my pocket; that's why I will never own a Glock. The short trigger pull has caused way too many to shoot themselves in the leg while holstering the stupid gun. Just do a web search on "Glock leg." I for one don't want a case of KelTec crotch or KelTec butt. :-?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glock legI know it's an old thread but Glock's are among the safest handguns out there.
Can someone please post a citation of ANY case in which a person has been sent to prison SOLELY or using a modified firearm in lawful self defense? I hear this myth a lot but no one ever seems to be able to cite an example.I would think a modified trigger in this way could cause legal headaches if you have to shoot someone in self defense. A lightened trigger could look as bad "intent".
I do not agree with this but it does open you up to additional risk if prosecutor or BG family wanted to go after you - just sayin'.
Bluesdog
Sorry, but it is not a myth, and don't want anyone new here (who has not seen previous discussions on this subject) to think so. Have you read the Case Files of Massad Ayoob. More than one such incident in his case files on this subject where he was called by the defense as an expert witness.Can someone please post a citation of ANY case in which a person has been sent to prison SOLELY or using a modified firearm in lawful self defense? I hear this myth a lot but no one ever seems to be able to cite an example.
As has been said before, "If deadly force is authorized it doesn't matter if you use a machine gun or a weed-whacker."
Let's put this myth to rest already.
First you request a citation of a generalized statement, then you make your own generalized statement? Sorry. Citation please for your any weapon in a storm comment.Can someone please post a citation of ANY case in which a person has been sent to prison SOLELY or using a modified firearm in lawful self defense? I hear this myth a lot but no one ever seems to be able to cite an example.
As has been said before, "If deadly force is authorized it doesn't matter if you use a machine gun or a weed-whacker."
Let's put this myth to rest already.
And we're supposed to be clairvoyant and know this....I'm not new here, I've been posting for years. I go through long periods of inactivity which force me to create a new profile every once in a long while.
You did ask for citations on why we make these warnings. They were provided. You still haven't answered my request by citing your "As has been said before, "If deadly force is authorized it doesn't matter if you use a machine gun or a weed-whacker."" statement. Which I must admit I had never seen or heard before.V. DO NOT REGISTER MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT: We do not want confusion over anyone’s identity and multiple accounts have the potential for nefarious uses. Sometimes due to technical issues, you may not be able to access your account. Should this happen, you may register a new account for the purpose of contacting the staff to rectify your issue. Once fixed, the new account must be closed.
Since Ayoobs writings often come from his actual case files, and since they are generally published in gun magazines and other gun related publications, I don't think anyone but pro-gun folks ever read his material, so I don't think it matters much whether a particular area is pro or anti-gun. He is writing to a specific audience, and they are what matter. Others would never read what he writes so I tend to doubt whether his writing is designed to "fly" for those folks as well.Massad Ayoob writes for a VERY general audience. What he writes has to fly in very anti-gun places like New Jersey just as well in very pro-gun places like Alaska. (Hence his recommendation one only use police ammo.) Unless you live in a VERY anti-gun area, this is really a non-issue.
True, it is not too likely (though it has probably happened) that many of the folks in cases cited actually went to prison, but that completely overlooks the tremendous expenses, and even personal financial ruin that many might experience having to defend themselves against such charges. Such costs could easily cost 100K or more, and not many of us could readily afford such. Another aspect could well be, even if such charges eventually failed in criminal court, civil liability charges from the relatives of a deceased. Such charges do not need to meet criminal standards, and liabilities can run into millions. Quite a chance to take for a generally unnecessary modification, albeit it might make a firearm more pleasant at the range (which is not its role in any case).After a shooting your choice of modification (and ammo) is the LAST thing you should worry about. But if you want to wring your hands over an extremely small amount of failed prosecutions, be my guest. Like I said, I've yet to see ANYONE go to prison solely for using a modified firearm in a justifiable shooting. A prosecutor would really be grasping at threads if he went forward with that kind of case, especially now that it has such a failed track record.
Never assumed such. So you're saying if my old account was deleted due to inactivity I can't make another?And we're supposed to be clairvoyant and know this....
From our forum rules.
Not really. I still haven't seen an example of anyone who went to prison for using a modified firearm in a justifiable shooting. The weedwhacker thing was something someone said on another forum. Didn't want to look like I was stealing his originality.You did ask for citations on why we make these warnings. They were provided. You still haven't answered my request by citing your "As has been said before, "If deadly force is authorized it doesn't matter if you use a machine gun or a weed-whacker."" statement. Which I must admit I had never seen or heard before.