Ok, tomorrow I'll get out my calipers and compare to a 1911 and lcp max and p11.
I wqs able to stop by keltec and compare the alloy and poly versions before i decided. It wasn't easy deciding, but I didn't need a rail, and darn it, wood grip panels and metal vs plastic, i felt it was worth the extra $200.
Oh, the hard case is awful, not even a handle. gun comes in a zippered soft case in a hard case. but the soft case is a bit too big to easily fit inside the hard case. and the hard case only has foam on one side so the gun inside the soft case will fit in it. But that means without the bag, nothing holds the gun and magazines in place and they slide around. I'll have to add another piece of foam so I can trash the bag. I got spoiled by the great case the CMP uses to ship their 1911's in.
I'd have said, ditch the soft case and go to a better hard case