[whyzee]

Hello All

I'm thinking about getting a p32 and concerned about recoil. 7oz is not much weight for even a 22 much less a 32. Yes I realize 32acp is a mouse gun and all you steel fingers/hands just wait until you get older (whine) so I have hand problems or I wouldn't be asking this question.

Has anybody mounted an empty laser case filled with lead shot on their p32 ?

I sent some emails to 3 laser manufacturers asking how much for "empty" laser case, ie. just the plastic piece with mounting screws. Lead shot size #11 or 12 should be mushable into the empty laser case.

I'm not sure how much extra weight would be added, lead density about 11gr per cubic centimeter, but having an extra 2-3oz hanging off the barrel would make a noticeable difference in reducing recoil

Thanks !

 

[flareside_ford]

I have not but its an interesting idea. I'll be looking forward to how this goes.

 

[whyzee]

hmmm... 2/3 replies from laser companies said they don't sell individual parts. I suppose I could buy the thing and take it apart, or figure out some other way to add some weight to the front

or maybe just get a different gun, also looking at ruger lc380

this website says "recoil factor" is the same for these 2 guns, but this is just a math computation & can't take into account the gun geometry whatever it's called, same site also says browning hipower 9mm kicks more than walther ppk/s 380, I've shot both of those and the BHP is much easier to control

http://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Kel-Tek/Pistol/P-32/32-Auto/Variant-9
http://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Ruger/Pistol/LC380/380-Auto/Variant-1

I like the kt32 because it is much smaller but I don't know if my hands can shoot the thing very well. I posted at local forum offering some "free" ammo if somebody let's me shoot a few rounds thru their pistol but replies were 3-5 hours of driving. Next likely I will try renting the lc380 & see what it is like

 

[flareside_ford]

I don't know where you are located, but I would let you shoot some rounds through my wife's P32. I don't have issues with the recoil but I find the size of the P32 to small for my hand size.

 

[jimlj]

I don't find the P32 bad in the recoil department, but I'm just a young 58 year old whippersnapper. I'd find one to shoot first and see if it bothers you.

 

[TxCajun]

If you've never shot one, the p32 is a tad snappy, but not a big recoiler. Shooting gloves for extended practice are quite helpful. Various grip sleeves also tame recoil.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/83...-lcp-beretta-nano-taurus-738-tcp-rubber-black

 

[whyzee]

flareside - thx I will post a new thread about this

jimlj - yes I've already tried the buy it 1st then shoot it 2nd approach too many times

txcajun - that is a good idea too, I had pachmayr grips for a few other pistols and they had lead inserts in them

 

[cluznar]

Recoil? Not with the P-32. I can shoot it with one or two hands. Don't even worry about recoil. :rayof:

 

[michael t]

I am 70 I have 2 fingers that just ride along on L/hand( ring and pinky ) no grip strength. I shoot the P-32 left handed only . Recoil not a problem . I read your other post . Your worrying to much . There are 1000's of us that own P-32 's 4 in my house alone . Now P3AT with Corbon is snappy My PPK/s is snappy . My PF-9 gets your attention.

I had a seecamp copy years back . That hurt to fire even a mag full. and weighed a lot more.

You don't need to ad weight to the pistol

 

[jonnin]

Ive found the genitron site to be very reliable.
That said, there are 4 things that mostly affect recoil... total weight/inertia, power of the recoil spring, geometry (moment of leverage as the barrel to grip form a lever of sorts, and grip geometry/size/etc) and compensation (gas redirection).


Porting... Ive found this to be of minimal usefulness in small guns though; its really notable in rifles or magnums that have a lot of gas. The gas is effectively the mass of the powder charge. If your gun shoots 20 - 30 grains of powder (rifles) that mass at its velocity (fast!) is turned back around and negates some of the bullet mass and velocity to zero sum a bit of the recoil. A 32 has what, 2-3 grains of powder mass? It wouldn't do much. Rifle bullet mass to powder mass is much closer too, so that is another reason it works there.

the grip can be changed a little but not much on these pistols. Mostly means a wraparound type addition.

Geometry is more or less fixed.

That leaves you with adding weight, as you noted, and maybe kicking the recoil spring up one or two notches (but this can affect reliability). You can probably add weight under the barrel in the frame in many guns. Often there is a hollow area in that region that could be filled if careful, you could mold it somehow and melt your own custom insert and glue it in...



Or getting a different gun. The sig p238 has a lot less felt recoil than the kel tec 380.

 

[Blue_State_Saint]

Or getting a different gun. The sig p238 has a lot less felt recoil than the kel tec 380.

I have both a SIG P238 and a KT P32, and the felt recoil of each is actually very close, IMO. The P32 does have less, by virtue of the smaller round, but the weight of the P238 (over double, unloaded) dampens the recoil of the .380 nicely.

 

[pmwizard]

I just bought my p32 a couple months ago and I am 67 yrs old. Just grip the pistol firmly and you will be okay. I have found that the gun can be shot one handed. And yes it is manageable. The 32 is not like shooting a mouse pistol in .380. I do not have a gorilla grip either.