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I didn't know it was still legal to buy guns in California?
Legal to own them, yes.
Clearly they left some loopholes open that still needed to be closed
.Those poor people. Maybe China will go ahead and annex them and make it humane
.just making noise, really. The one change is illegal (making things you already own illegal, ex post facto law) for mags you already own. The others just pile onto their already idiotic anti AR laws, making the bullet button illegal so you have to have a fixed box mag on your rifle, which was already an option.
Their stupidity is funny, really, at this point. To me its a case of "just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber". We just had a shooting were over 100 victims failed to shoot back at one guy. So the solution of course is to make it harder to shoot back. And they apparently have never heard of reloading ammo, 3-d printing a mag, buying it out of state (legal for rifles) and taking it home (not legal in CA, but we all know criminals obey all the laws), or any of the other obvious ways around their dumb restrictions.
I don't see how anyone can afford a gun there anyway. A freaking trailer park or studio apartment is probably like 5 million. Who can afford to shoot?
Their stupidity is funny, really, at this point. To me its a case of "just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber". We just had a shooting were over 100 victims failed to shoot back at one guy. So the solution of course is to make it harder to shoot back. And they apparently have never heard of reloading ammo, 3-d printing a mag, buying it out of state (legal for rifles) and taking it home (not legal in CA, but we all know criminals obey all the laws), or any of the other obvious ways around their dumb restrictions.
I don't see how anyone can afford a gun there anyway. A freaking trailer park or studio apartment is probably like 5 million. Who can afford to shoot?
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ANNND the pro-gunners answer. Again..... Lol
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/blog...w-gun-control-compliant-device-in-production/
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/blog...w-gun-control-compliant-device-in-production/
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Sorry we're not much help.
The whole idea behind the :quote:CA:quote: version was it was meant to be California-compliant minus the evil pistol grip and threaded muzzle.
Unfortunately, as soon as some some nimrod out there writes a few words on a piece of paper, it becomes illegal again
.It's a game of "Whack-a-Mole".
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Whatever you do to modify it to make it legal again probably wouldn't last very long
.If you are going to stay and want to protect your loved ones, I suggest you embrace the ATLATL.
It will likely remain legal
.Having defected from Kalifornia years ago I have to post something...
The politicians are scared people will use guns on them - pure and simple. This is Feinstein's ultimate fear (realized) - so you'll never have freedom until all blood sucking liberals are booted from office. It's a shame more people aren't active making this happen but complain so much about all the absurd legislation that gets pooped out. After seeing popular vote squashed by judges it became obvious that the state isn't governed by the people.
Brown and his stupid big mouth complaining all the guns people are bringing in from Arizona. What a moron. It's safer to be an illegal border crosser in California. And you are pretty much forbidden from owning what the 2nd amendment grants you.
The politicians are scared people will use guns on them - pure and simple. This is Feinstein's ultimate fear (realized) - so you'll never have freedom until all blood sucking liberals are booted from office. It's a shame more people aren't active making this happen but complain so much about all the absurd legislation that gets pooped out. After seeing popular vote squashed by judges it became obvious that the state isn't governed by the people.
Brown and his stupid big mouth complaining all the guns people are bringing in from Arizona. What a moron. It's safer to be an illegal border crosser in California. And you are pretty much forbidden from owning what the 2nd amendment grants you.
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A lot of the liberal politicians are very emotional reactors. That means that they have never learned (or never been taught) how to control their feelings when they well up and don't have the ability to perform critical thinking or critical listening. They "trigger" on anything they perceive to be a threat to their position (whatever it is at the moment). A gun or other such equalizing tool easily causes almost blind panic in such people as they can't deal with their emotions. It leads them to fear, loathe, and fight ("fight or flight") such concepts. They typically don't want to learn about things (guns) but want to destroy all such means that make them feel threatened (facts, equalizing tools, competing ideas, etc.).
Many that have not learned critical listening skills don't know how to understand what is being presented to them. The facts and other ideas are not understood for what they are, namely a platform for them to present their facts and ideas and fairly and openly compare their position against other's ideas. Many have a feeling, deep down, that there are not many real facts on their side that will stand up and that their ideas will not stand the test of critical analysis in a side by side comparison using logic. This furthers their building sense of panic, which further triggers, what the non-emotional reactors see as irrational behavior (...ban all guns!!!... or ...owning a gun is EVIL!!!... etc.).
As they don't seem to be able to actually listen to what others are saying it is very difficult to talk to them. The problem is that what you see as being a normal word that should be rather unambiguous, they see the word through an emotional lens. "Self Defense" isn't for them the simple concept of defending your self if attacked. The concept for a logical reactor is to understand that self defense doesn't exist unless there is first some situation that exhibits an attack and then the victim of the attack tries to stop it. The liberals have been conditioned to emotionally react to such words and envision minorities being unfairly attacked by oppressors, police shooting innocent people, military rolling over babies, drunken hoards with guns shooting up crowds, etc. They feel all those things simultaneously and come to the conclusion that they would not feel that way if guns didn't exist, or at least were very rare. The fact that you tell them that there haven't been really statistically significant events that they fear doesn't stop their feelings. It is very difficult to discuss serious concepts when every word that is used needs to be psychologically analyzed for triggering emotions at levels and in ways that most would find incredulous. California has collected an extra amount of the emotional reactors and encourages the lack of logical and critical analysis of ideas as that also is threatening to them.
I don't have a real solution to dealing with them in the short term other than be very very very careful in what words you use to talk to them. In the long term (and I don't know how long that is), their positions will fail as they are not based on any real foundation. The problem is that many innocent people will go down with them. I will try to not be near them when they go down.
Many that have not learned critical listening skills don't know how to understand what is being presented to them. The facts and other ideas are not understood for what they are, namely a platform for them to present their facts and ideas and fairly and openly compare their position against other's ideas. Many have a feeling, deep down, that there are not many real facts on their side that will stand up and that their ideas will not stand the test of critical analysis in a side by side comparison using logic. This furthers their building sense of panic, which further triggers, what the non-emotional reactors see as irrational behavior (...ban all guns!!!... or ...owning a gun is EVIL!!!... etc.).
As they don't seem to be able to actually listen to what others are saying it is very difficult to talk to them. The problem is that what you see as being a normal word that should be rather unambiguous, they see the word through an emotional lens. "Self Defense" isn't for them the simple concept of defending your self if attacked. The concept for a logical reactor is to understand that self defense doesn't exist unless there is first some situation that exhibits an attack and then the victim of the attack tries to stop it. The liberals have been conditioned to emotionally react to such words and envision minorities being unfairly attacked by oppressors, police shooting innocent people, military rolling over babies, drunken hoards with guns shooting up crowds, etc. They feel all those things simultaneously and come to the conclusion that they would not feel that way if guns didn't exist, or at least were very rare. The fact that you tell them that there haven't been really statistically significant events that they fear doesn't stop their feelings. It is very difficult to discuss serious concepts when every word that is used needs to be psychologically analyzed for triggering emotions at levels and in ways that most would find incredulous. California has collected an extra amount of the emotional reactors and encourages the lack of logical and critical analysis of ideas as that also is threatening to them.
I don't have a real solution to dealing with them in the short term other than be very very very careful in what words you use to talk to them. In the long term (and I don't know how long that is), their positions will fail as they are not based on any real foundation. The problem is that many innocent people will go down with them. I will try to not be near them when they go down.
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Actually, there are some who do understand what 'self defense' means but still believe it is 'wrong'. These are the warped minds that believe you should be obligated to run away from an attacker even in your own home and would say that, if attacked, they would rather be hurt or die, themselves, than 'commit violence' against another human being, even someone who is attacking them. To use a common adage, they truly do believe that the woman lying bleeding and raped in a back alley as her assailant walks away is morally superior to that same woman standing over the bleeding assailant with a smoking gun in her hand. IMO it is a sick, warped, twisted mindset. Even worse, they want to force their sick version of what is 'right' on the rest of us.
To go, well, not entirely off topic but a little sideways from it, this is exactly why I absolutely do not want to see the Fed force national reciprocity for carry permits. Some people try to use national reciprocity for driver's licenses as an example of why it would 'work'. To me, that is an example of why we must avoid it. Just look at where most of the Fed emissions laws for cars originated - in Kalifornistan. Do we really want a national reciprocity standard that is also set by places like California and New York? I know I don't. I'd rather the states handle it between themselves and simply not carry in 'those' places. Besides, even if national reciprocity were to go into effect, just as with traffic laws, we would still have to be aware of and obey all the nitpicky, local and state laws that places like New York have in place - and you can bet they would ramp those laws up even further if they were 'forced' to allow people from outside who hadn't been 'vetted' by their state/city (i.e. payed the proper bribes or had the right connections.) With those kind of laws in place, basically setting a trap for honest firearms carriers from other states, it still wouldn't really be 'safe' to carry there, anyhow, but it would give the Fed and the more liberal states an 'in' to set qualification standards, and carry standards for all of us as well as telling us what kinds of guns we could be allowed to carry. No, thanks. I have been to New York City once. I didn't leave anything there that I need to go back for. To my knowledge, there is nothing I need that I can only get in California, either.
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Moon Beam Brown...the craziest liberal to ever win election in California.
Ya reap what you sow Cali...vote that clown out and join the other 48 states in the union.
Yea...48 !!
You ever hear of Illinois...?!
Another Liberal mess going down in flames...
Ya reap what you sow Cali...vote that clown out and join the other 48 states in the union.
Yea...48 !!
You ever hear of Illinois...?!
Another Liberal mess going down in flames...
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Yep...heard of that one. You ever hear of that one electroshot?
On the bright side, I can visit the great cheese state from time to time. On the down side, the great suckage of Chicago seems a might too close.
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Yeah, Illinois sounds familiar. Not sure if it really qualifies as a state anymore. I remember some of virulently anti-2nd Amendment comments from some of the learless feeders in Chicago. If they had their way, it would be a joint team ownership between the government and the gangs. ... Wait! That's what we already have!
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