4 1/2 more months of lockdown?

Discussion in 'The Counter' started by Oldynotmoldy, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. Oldynotmoldy

    Oldynotmoldy Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2019
    That's right! My wife was diagnosed with cancer last October. She had chemo and radiation treatments from Christmas until the end of March, by which time the Covid shut down started. We went through multiple tests to prove the cancerous tumor was gone, but the surgeon refused to accept that was true until I asked if he was trying to make money by promoting a surgery we had avoided by all the aggressive treatments. She has been healing and looking forward to getting out and about. We thought we were clear until Monday when the chemo Dr said my wife needs 4 1/2 months of oral and IV chemo to get the odds of recurrence under 20%. So here we go again. The treatments will weaken her and compromise her immune system even more that what it is now, so we have to self isolate again, this time for 4 1/2 months PLUS the recovery time, however long that is this time. If she holds up under the treatments as well as last time, with any luck we might be able to get out and around in 8-9 more months.

    So if any of you are chafing under the restrictions, count yourselves blessed it's only the Covid you are dealing with. And if you think the mask thing is a bother, it might be me you infect without one, and then I bring it home to her.
  2. rtm

    rtm Member

    Nov 6, 2017
    Tampa area
    In 4 1/2 months, the pandemic will still be going on...

    Best of luck with all of this. Prays for your wife and you.
    And I'll wear a mask so you don't get it from me.

    That's why I hate doctors...

  3. VegasSub2K

    VegasSub2K Well-Known Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    I will pray for strength and patience for you and your wife Oldynotmoldy. My wife, son and I have self quarantined due to catching the Covid. My wife got it especially bad with pneumonia and an infection. We are looking forward to getting back to normal in a few weeks so I feel for you both. May God watch over you and your wife and hopefully she will be cancer free in the near future.
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  4. carwash

    carwash Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2012
    Bristol, Pa
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  5. RAT76

    RAT76 Well-Known Member

    No chafing here Oldy. We are self locked down for at least the next 2 years & probably pretty much from now on if the truth be told. We are taking to isolating like a couple of ducks to water. Both hermits at heart.

    You & your wife take care of yourselves. I know I don't need to tell you this but don't forget, don't let someone you don't know near you.

    Yesterday I was in front of the garage when some guy stopped in front of my driveway. The passenger got out of the truck & started walking up toward me. Without thinking my hand came up palm out & I was saying "stop, that's close enough." He was looking for directions.

    I guess I've got that reaction on automatic. This was the third time I've done that since March. I'm happy about that.
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  6. fez

    fez Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    Praying for a good outcome.
  7. jonnin

    jonnin Well-Known Member

    Sep 28, 2010
    The lockdowns, chaos, and all will last at least until the big election.
    While there is a real illness, the nonsense attached to it is entirely manufactured (by all sides).
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  8. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    In the first place, we are not in a lockdown as the thread title suggests. Had we begun the one we had last spring a bit earlier, and stayed a bit longer, especially in certain states, and followed the CDC guidelines for reopening into the various phases based on virus numbers, we wouldn`t be in the shape we're in. Look at every other country on the planet that did it better. We are the world epicenter for Covid19.

    We will be dealing with this much longer than 4 1/2 months, almost certainly another year and probably longer. Although it is a multifaceted diseases, this coronavirus is basically a respiratory disease and we are in the slow season for respiratory illness. We don`t see a lot of flu in the summer but covid has blown up. Expectations of some immunologists and virologists are that this fall/winter, when folks are cooped up indoors, during the traditional flu season, covid could get very bad and we could go back into a real lockdown. Remember, by the time we were dealing with covid last spring, cold weather and flu season were mostly over. We haven't been through a fall/winter with Covid19.

    Hopefully, better therapeutics for treatment will be developed because we are not quickly going to vaccinate our way out of this epidemic. A vaccine will not be 100% effective and may only be 50%. Look at your annual flu shot. Plenty of people get a flu shot but still get sick and nearly half of Americans don't get a flu shot anyway. There is a high percentage of folks that won`t get a covid vaccine. Polls I've seen range between 30% to 50% say they won`t. Even if everyone does (they won`t), vaccinating 320,000,000 will take many months.

    Our best tool for fighting the virus is social distancing, but there are plenty of Americans, especially younger ones but others too, that don`t do it well. Hell, Louisiana is a hotspot but the freaking casinos are open. People go to restaurants, beaches, whatever is open. When bars open up, they rush right in. Protests, political rallies, birthday parties, backyard barbecues, all of that still goes on. Social drinking does not enhance one's diligence. Then of course, people have to work and many can`t work from home.

    A report just surfaced on a YMCA camp in Georgia that went bad. Of 600 attendees, 260 tested positive for Covid19. Now we're going to open up schools, even after a couple countries already tried and had to close them back down. Schools are going to blow it up again. Kids will get sick, infect their families, who will infect coworkers... exponential spread is my prediction for that, and I'm at work now at a school, getting ready for the fall semester which starts online, and then who knows?

    Masks help but they are not extremely effective, only better than nothing. Effective respirators like the N95 are unobtainable and even if you can get them, they must be personally sized/fitted and properly worn to work well. Medical grade surgical masks are also mostly unobtainable, but they are designed more to protect others and less yourself. The "surgical" masks available to the public are mostly crap, maybe better than cloth masks which are the worst. Cloth may be a little better than nothing and cloth is what most people have. If it hasn`t occurred to you, I keep my masks on the dashboard in the bright, disinfecting Texas sun.

    Man, I'd love for this to be over in 4 1/2 months but I'm not making any travel plans or reservations. Hunker down the best you can. Stay the hell away from those that don`t live under your roof, the best you can. Where a mask when you can`t keep distance. Meet people outdoors if you have to see someone. Around others, avoid stuffy rooms with poor ventilation. 10 feet is better than 6. Tend to your pre-existing conditions. Loose weight, exercise, eat healthy, take your vitamins and protect your loved ones, especially those most at risk.
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  9. Oldynotmoldy

    Oldynotmoldy Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2019
    We have been "locked down" at my house due to my wife's cancer. We will continue to be "locked down" as long as necessary to avoid those who believe we should all get infected and the people at risk can just go ahead and die and get it over with. Nothing is going to convince Americans they need to protect others from their own wanton ways. My wife summed it up well at the beginning of the Covid business. This is showing us just how rude and selfish the American public really is. Personally I will keep to my own small circle and what happens to them happens to them. That includes her son who refuses to follow the guidelines claiming it violates his rights. Thank God he is moving out soon.
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  10. jonnin

    jonnin Well-Known Member

    Sep 28, 2010
    We went though that too, not cancer but chemo immune system wrecking treatments. It was possibly more challenging back before covid? Hard to say, but people were not very good about staying away and washing hands and all that before. On the flipside, there wasn't a plague going around before either, though a cold or flu would have taken months to knock out if she had caught it.
  11. mtn_chef

    mtn_chef Well-Known Member

    Mar 22, 2014
    nc mountains
    Seeing the first groups of college students return to campus here, has been a mixed bag. Some wear masks, some don’t. We’ve seen restaurants shut down from outbreaks... and had employees be quarantined awaiting test results.

    The 20-somethings are who we need to get on board. That invincibility thing is real with this demographic... and real dangerous to the rest of us.
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  12. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    My grandson attends the University of Houston and all classes, including labs, are online, same as they were from March on. He had an off campus student housing apartment and had to pay $800 a month rent from March through July when he wasn't living there. He stayed with his Aunt who lives out by nasa. Next weekend, he's coming to San Antonio to live with me since it doesn't matter where he is. He's 20 and a good, conservative, studious kid, but I will be keeping a tight reign on him. I told him when we planned this that he was welcome to live here, but I`m 65 with a little hypertension, and he could not be going out socializing because I'll be really ****ed off if he kills me.
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  13. mtn_chef

    mtn_chef Well-Known Member

    Mar 22, 2014
    nc mountains
    Today I welcomed back 8 employees we laid off in March. It was a good day. I hope we make it through the whole semester, without another shut down and I have to tell these people they’re unemployed again twice in the same year.

    These people don’t want another $600 a week, they want to contribute to our team as a whole, provide for their families and stay safe doing so... We began our day with a 2 hour training session first thing to bring them up to speed.
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  14. Blackkat

    Blackkat Well-Known Member

    Mar 4, 2020
    Prayers to you and your wife sir, praying for a blessed out come for you and your wife. Stay strong brother.
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  15. JR37

    JR37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2009
    Jonesboro, Arkansas
    Jonnin, met you and your wife at Phideaux 1 and 2. I have wondered about her health several times since then. You and her are nice people.
  16. Alnath

    Alnath Member

    Dec 26, 2019
    Good luck to your wife and to you, sir. Masks and social distance can save lives- you may never know whose. We all need to make this small sacrifice so that friends and even strangers stay safe!
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  17. Daverm

    Daverm Member

    Oct 24, 2017
    The only thing that matters is staying safe. I hope your wife has a speedy recovery.
  18. RichRelay

    RichRelay Member

    Jun 30, 2020
    Prayers to you and your wife, Oldy...
  19. lydgate

    lydgate Member

    Jun 24, 2020
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  20. Alnath

    Alnath Member

    Dec 26, 2019
    Tell it, brother! If people in large numbers acted on what you wrote we would have a much easier path through this.
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