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I found the 2005 figures on the ATF website.  They must have come out recently.  Here's a summary:


P-32  
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10,793                      39,784           2005
14,882                      34,969           2004
21,545                      16,269          2003 *

NAA Guardian .32         .380

  434                        1,449             2005
1,032                           410             2004
1,863                        1,683             2003


Seecamp  .32              .380


1,047                            349             2005
1,032                            410             2004
1,463                                4             2003

Here are the reports:

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/stats/index.htm

* P-3ATs first started shipping around 6/03.
 

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They make them in Austria and import them. The ATF tracks U.S. production only.

I'm supposing the 1,100 are some special custom order that were assembled here.

Beretta is on the list because they make pistols in the U.S., the ones made in Italy aren't on this list.
 

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Just for fun, I cipherd the 3AT sales in dollars. 3ATs (only):

$11,902,825 (Retail, assuming a $275 price)

$7,736,836 (Wholesale, assuming wholesale price is 65% of retail price)

I know prices vary, and the wholesale to retail ratio is a WAG on my part.
 
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Just for fun, I cipherd the 3AT sales in dollars.   3ATs (only):

$11,902,825 (Retail, assuming a $275 price)

$7,736,836  (Wholesale, assuming wholesale price is 65% of retail price)  

I know prices vary, and the wholesale to retail ratio is a WAG on my part.  
I wonder how much it cost to produce and warentee one.
 

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barnettbill said:
I wonder how much it cost to produce and warentee one.
Hard to say, the direct costs - materials and labor are probably pretty low but then you have the cost of overhead - machinery & equipment, the buildings, advertising, shipping, R&D, insurance, etc., etc.
 

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Kel-tec is doing very well. To bad it's a pivately owned business.
I'd love to buy some stock. 8)



The P32:

2004 - #2 in U.S. 32 cal production only to Baretta.

2005 - #1 in U.S. 32 cal production.


The P3AT:


2004 - #1 in U.S. 380 acp production.

2005 - #1 in U.S. 380 acp production




P11 production ain't too shabby either. Kel-tec comes in a respectable #4,
surpassed only by Ruger, Baretta and Hi-Point:

2004 - 9,964

2005 - 9,986








Ok, I couldn't s resist this

Sky Industries 9 mm:
2004 - 0
2005 - 486

Still no Flat 9 as announced just after the PF9 was debuted at the 06 Shot Show and still no 380 announced a few years back when the 2nd gen P3AT was released. That vapor ware don't show up too good on those ATF reports.
 

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alamo said:
Just added a 2003 summary to the original posting.
That should put total P3AT production to date nearing 150,000.
 

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alamo said:
I found the 2005 figures on the ATF website.  They must have come out recently.  Here's a summary:


P-32  
                  P-3AT        

10,793                      39,784           2005
14,882                      34,969           2004
21,545                      16,269           2003 *

NAA Guardian .32         .380

  434                        1,449             2005
1,032                           410             2004
1,863                        1,683             2003


Seecamp  .32              .380


1,047                            349             2005
1,032                            410             2004
1,463                                4             2003

Here are the reports:

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/stats/index.htm

* P-3ATs first started shipping around 6/03.
TxCajun said:
That should put total P3AT production to date nearing 150,000.  

That's about right if not more by now.
 
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