Yeah but GENERALLY you get better penetration with slightly less expansion with a heavier bullet. I forget who, might have been Double Tap, they used an 80gr, (might be for a .380), designed for less than max expansion, got good penetration, since it is a light weight bullet, recoil was minimal thus allowing faster follow up shots. I'd like to try it out one day when the 'gods' favor me with time and money, (oh yeah, the chronograph I want also). BTW, I shot 147gr Golden Sabers out of my gun with no issues.