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Combat shotgun course focoused towards the KSG

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I made a post about a combat shotgun course. I have been super busy with railroad life, but have been working on getting it set up. I hopefully wont put the cart infront of the horse. But i am hoping to work out a final schedule that works with a guy and his crew whom use the KSG daily for their profession and training. I am just going to hint that they work in prisons. But. We'll see how it pans out. I believe He is a well enough known man, i believe he is a humble man, and whom has focous and dedication to the KSG and has KelTec's ear. I will work out the details and repost soon.

If you have ideas or topics you might like to see covered PLEASE! share.

I work 40-80hrs a week. My life is relaxed and busy as everyone elses. And i am faliable and tend to overlook and forget things. But input would be great.

My intent so everyone is clear. Is to create a course to be able for everyone in the united states to come to. I would like to see it geared towards the KSG to showcase their honest ability beyond a "range toy" or "nerf gun" as some like to call it. When i have the course set up. I will make posts for 6 months in advance so people have plenty of time to prepare. And will attempt to get the "youtube" guys like nutinfancy and that cry baby MAC and the awesomeness of HankStrange. To come. I would like to video and youtube it so there is still traction moving forward and not just the videos of guys whining about it on youtube.

Anyways. I got to run.
 
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But input would be great.
My intent so everyone is clear. Is to create a course to be able for everyone in the united states to come to. I would like to see it geared towards the KSG to showcase their honest ability beyond a "range toy" or "nerf gun" as some like to call it.
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I for one, am anxious to see your target-holder design.
We had been asked to add shotguns to our rifle&pistol course and after seeing the devastating and destructive capability of numerous rounds of either slugs or buckshot, nixed the idea.
It's great to think that every shot will go thru easily replaced cardboard or plywood, but something has to hold it up. And it will get shot.
Even with 1/4" thick steel frame, after a few shooters, there was nothing but a bloody stump left. Impossible to score.
 
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Was likely going to use bird on steel for some close drills and a bit of clay. ( which i do need practice at). Plywood and paper for some. And junk cars, sheet rock/plywood walls, railroad ties and paper plates for some.

If you got ideas let me know.

When i was on the farm. I sank a RR tie and shot that into pieces. And other stuff too.

The thing that i always laugh at is when folks equate poking holes in paper targets to equated damage of an actual target. Or say that equates to going thru fifteen houses, five locomotive engines and two box cars of power. If... you want to Poke holes.... go buy a daisy BB gun from walmart. Its cheaper then 1-3$/slug. I want to see damage. I want to see can i fire thru that cover and make the guy on the other side pray that his 72virgins are sheep not rosie odonalds. I want to see what a slug will and will not do thru a car. Incase that is my car a ghetto thug just drove off with or is fleeing away cause he came to the wrong house to try to supplement his already stolen and unearned food stamps. I wont call 911. The nehibors will. And instead of calling them they'll call me first. I believe if you have Gull to call yourself an American. You better have balls to be Armed and handle it without the governmemt paid road pirates. Our founding fathers didnt call 911 when the britsh invaded. They pulled out their shotguns (muskets) and went to work.

Anyways.

My goal is to give tactics and reality to what the KSG is good for. From taking down a spy drone to punching holes in walls. A KSG is a solid tool. And because Squads are never just one man. There should be at least one KSG to support with the rifles.

Cause i promise you. If our founding fathers had todays rifles and KSG's (muskets) they would have still said ...

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If you got ideas let me know.

When i was on the farm. I sank a RR tie and shot that into pieces.
I've designed a lot of target holders that worked out great with regular small-arms fire (any pistol or rifle). Easy change in less than a minute
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A railroad tie is very substantial.
You could have a dozen AR's pecking on it like woodpeckers for days and it would be unfazed.
Seeing one shot into splinters in less than an hour may open the eyes of some people of just how truly devastating a weapon the KSG is
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As I said, let me know what you come up with.

Unless it has alien DNA and is able to grow parts back... we probably tried it:D.
 
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I, for Juan, have seen 'Blake' take his KSG to a 'sporting clay' place. I thought it was a *******-shotgun gulf course, but I've been wrong before. His ksg was up agin a fine Benellie pump, and time honored side by side and did just fine. I got the pictures to prove it too. Well, they prove he was there, not that he hit anything. But he did; I saw it.

'Blake', he a funny guy.

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Man, idk if I can trust a resume like that. I mean, if a tactical instructor doesn't shave his head bald, have a bunch of tattoos, a too-small T Shirt, and cuss like a drill instructor, what am I going to learn? He's got to me a super Ranger-Seal-Delta-SWAT oeprator operator before he can even have one iota of ability worth learning from, so if he can't do that, then idk if I can learn from such a guy.

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Kidding aside, I'm not sure where you're going with this plan for a course. Sounds like this is an in-person course to be taught be a corrections officer related to CQB. Is this a multi-day course? Weekends? What state? Estimated cost in $$ and ammo? Estimated launch date? Even though I was making fun at instructors pedigrees above, they are somewhat relevant. Can you share anything about your potential instructor?
 
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