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Old 02-08-2010, 01:37 AM   #1
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Default Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

I was getting failure to feed problems with my typical Winchester White box 9mm ammo. It would fail to feed approx 30% of the round through it. *It is a brand new PF-9 so I sent it to the factory and they sent it right back with a new metal mag release, , new or repaired mag, and polished feed ramp. *I tried it at the *range and it had the exact same problem. I tried some standard remington ammo through it and voila, no feeding problems. *Just for kicks I pit the rounds side by side and *the Remington rounds were shorter.

WWB 115 gr FMJ length: * *[s]1.60"[/s] typo 1.16
Rem 115 gr FMJ *length: * *1.105"

The WWB is around [s].55"[/s] typo .055' longer

I was planning to carry Federal .124 Hydroshock and I measure the round and it was the same size as the remington *so I hope it will feed ok (havn't tried it yet)

Anyone else have this issue, it is pretty strange??

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:17 AM   #2
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Default Re: Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

I have fed my PF9 100 rounds of the WWB with no problems

The only feeding problems I have encountered is the 147g. rounds.

I have done none of the "modifications" to my PF9 as well, just clean and lube with oil and grease

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:21 AM   #3
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I was getting failure to feed problems with my typical Winchester White box 9mm ammo. It would fail to feed approx 30% of the round through it. *It is a brand new PF-9 so I sent it to the factory and they sent it right back with a new metal mag release, , new or repaired mag, and polished feed ramp. *I tried it at the *range and it had the exact same problem. I tried some standard remington ammo through it and voila, no feeding problems. *Just for kicks I pit the rounds side by side and *the Remington rounds were shorter.

WWB 115 gr FMJ length: * *1.60"
Rem 115 gr FMJ *length: * *1.15"

The WWB is around .55" longer

I was planning to carry Federal .124 Hydroshock and I measure the round and it was the same size as the remington *so I hope it will feed ok (havn't tried it yet)

Anyone else have this issue, it is pretty strange??

I
Careful with HydraShoks- my tests show they dont expand very well...go with Gold Dot or Critical Defense great expansion and cheaper if you go through Ammunitiontogo.com


Also I like the Federal cheap box 115grn for factory runs like a champ!
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:29 AM   #4
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Default Re: Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

That's odd. The only 115 fmj I have are WWB and Blazer Brass. Both appear to measure around 1.18". Believe I'd take those 1.6" rds back. :-/

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:37 AM   #5
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Default Re: Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

I used WWB for my initial break in (200 rounds) and all fed/fired with no problems. Some, however, have had problems with the WWB. It is just a matter of individual gun preferences. Some like WWB just fine, some won't work with it. Kinda like the 147 grainers. Some PF9s will work fine with this heavy bullet, others just don't seem to work with them. Go with whatever works best in your particular gun. Byeaa the way, did you really mean the WWF is .55 longer-a half inch? Or did you mean to say .055?

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:43 AM   #6
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Well I just had to break out my caliper.

Winchester White Box 1.16

After re reading your post there is NOWAY that the WWB is 1.6

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:53 AM   #7
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+1 on the hornady critical defense 115gr and speer gold dot 115gr. no need for +p imo :P

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Default Re: Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

My PF-9 has a little over 2000 rounds through it. It has never liked WWB. It's too long for my gun. Every time I've tried it, it was jam city. I've fed it Blazer Brass, Independence, PMC, Rem, Magtech, and S&B without any issues. Just feed your pocket rocket what she likes and you'll both me happy.

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+1 on the hornady critical defense 115gr and speer gold dot 115gr. no need for +p imo :P
Agreed...I like the Winchester 147 grn for Winter carry - due to increased penetration...BUT if I can only carry one type...Speer Gold Dot 115 grn (second choice - and just as good from what I can see - Critical Defense 115 grn.)
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:18 PM   #10
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Default Re: Winchester White Box will not feed in PF-9

I have feed at least 800+ rounds of WWB with 0 problems.
+1 on the Critical Defense as well.

I am 100% stock with only a fluff and buff job.

I threw a mag of Winchester ranger through after about 1200 rounds of ball ammo and decided right away I wasn't carrying ranger. Hell, the ball ammo in the PF-9 puts up more felt recoil (IMHO) then my full size 1911 with Ranger in it.
I have reservations about populated places and ranger ammo anyway for a very real fear of over penetration(which I think is about a sure bet). I keep rangers in my HD 1911 and my truck gun.
If I really need them I just need the pf-9 with the CD to get me back to the truck.
The Critical defense was a perfect fit and has been flawless in feeding for me. I have had no reason to try other SD rounds.
When I think about the purpose of the gun I honestly don't expect it to feed anything and everything like a full size combat pistol and I am not disappointed.
Everyone is different and we all will tame this little beast slightly differently, feed it what works in your hands and whatever you have confidence in. That is what will matter when the time comes.


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