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Old 02-07-2017, 02:18 PM   #41
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Dr_Don, that's nice work! I was going to suggest he do exactly what you did to test the load/bullets for expansion in water.

Full size barrels might not have problems but once a given load is fired out of a short barrel problems can exist.

I did the same thing when I swapped to a 3" 1911 years ago. It was costly to do, but a definite eye opener. Oddly enough I got really good results from some of the least likely candidates.

In 9mm I've found that the 50 to a box, 20 year old (?), plain Jane, Win' Super-X 115gr silvertips work just fine out of my M&P 9c. So cost isn't the deciding factor, design is.

JayB, I don't know anything about the PF-9 but you've been given some very good advice so far on those things in this thread that I do know about.

Particularly about IDPA/USPSA competition. It's a very inexpensive way to learn to shoot better and a great way to spend some time. Just don't confuse it with defensive "training". You'll still need that. If the gun won't hold up for a few matches I doubt I'd want to EDC it, but shooting a few competitions should sort that out for you. I don't think I'd give it a steady diet of competitions. They aren't seen in competition by serious competitors for a reason. But once in awhile would be fun. Competition will also inject a bit of stress. It's good to test your shooting with added stress. No on will care about your score other than you. All they'll care about is safe gun handling.

I think it was in this thread where someone mentioned about "hitting the paper reliably" or some such. I teach NRA Basic Pistol and unless someone just can't get the safety rules all of my students pass. I use 8" paper plates as targets and I tell them that if they can't hit the plate at 8 yards we'll move up until they can hit it. Wherever we wind up is where they can reliably defend themselves with a handgun at that moment. In time they'll get better if the dry fire a bunch and pay attention to the basics. As long as they handle the firearm safely I don't care if we have to move up to where they put the muzzle of the gun right on the plate to hit. BTW, that's never happened. Oh, I also tutor one on one and that helps a lot. I can diagnose and stop bad habits before they become a problem.

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Old 03-01-2017, 12:02 PM   #42
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Made it to the range twice in February due to a break in the weather. The rebuilt PF-9 functioned flawlessly with the factory Hornady CD and Federal 9BP factory ammo. But I did experience one f-to-f with my Sierra reloads, which I don't consider a big deal, because I think I limp-wristed it, which I have to be especially careful about preventing with this subcompact.

Shooting this small pistol accurately at any range requires exceptional concentration due to the rather odd DAO trigger; especially when compared to a Glock trigger, which I've become quite comfortable with.

The new barrel did cause the pistol to shoot about 1" left-of-center. So I simply readjusted the rear sight to compensate for this defect... And, no, it wasn't due to shooter error this time.

Even though the Hornady CD ammo is more expensive, I consider it to be an upgrade to the rather dated Federal 9BP, so that is what I use for carry now. I'll reserve my 9BP ammo for practice sessions.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:34 PM   #43
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I really like this guy's work on youtube. His testing is specifically aimed at short barreled pistols, and the best ammo to use. This video is what I use in all my pistols and PCC's.

https://youtu.be/K3VfWkWMzOI
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I really like this guy's work on youtube. His testing is specifically aimed at short barreled pistols, and the best ammo to use. This video is what I use in all my pistols and PCC's.

https://youtu.be/K3VfWkWMzOI
I totally agree, he's the most professional gel tester I've found. I watched all his 380 and 9mm videos and they really helped me decide on ammo choice. His series on the judge convinced me to buy one too.
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I wish they sent shwag out with all orders considering last orders Ive made have nearly cost more to ship than the actual parts.
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