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Old 06-29-2012, 01:40 AM   #1
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Default Ever had a range tell you that you can't shoot your PLR-16 there?

I live in Houston, near a range called Hot Wells (outdoor range).

Went there today to shoot my brand new PLR-16. So I'm at the pistol range, and I get 5 shots off before the range officer shuts me down, telling me I can't shoot my gun at thier pistol range, because it shoots rifle rounds. My mind did a double take, as the same range has no problems with you shooting a .50AE or .454 Casull at the pistol range, so it can't be a ft-lbs of energy problem.

So I go to the rifle range, where they tell me I can't shoot it there because it has no stock.

Anyone have similar experiences?

They've lost my business completely, so if anyone else knows of good ranges out in the spring-cypress area of Houston, I'd love to take my business there.

The first 5 shots seemed to go well, at least

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Old 06-29-2012, 01:49 AM   #2
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Oh man that is such B#^^S#!^.

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Wow, so my NAA mini ain't allowed?

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If I owned the range, I wouldn't let you shoot it because it's too damn loud!

Seriously, I have heard of ranges only allowing guns that shoot pistol rounds on their pistol range, but they should have at least let you shoot it on the rifle range. Perhaps their berm was a bit low on the rifle range and they feared you'd accidentally shoot over it at long distances with a pistol. Who knows? It is a very congested urban area.

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I've got 3 ranges in my yard. You can shoot .44 mags at one, but not .223's. Even though they have the same energy, the .223 gouges the steal backing. So there is a difference. Would that same range allow FiveseveN's?

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I've got 3 ranges in my yard. You can shoot .44 mags at one, but not .223's. Even though they have the same energy, the .223 gouges the steal backing. So there is a difference. Would that same range allow FiveseveN's?
The same range allows .50AE, .500 S&W Mag etc - all "pistol" calibers. Even ones with 2x the energy. The backing is a huge dirt berm, not steel at all. Same backing for their rifle range, where you can shoot your .338 Lapua or .50BMG - or your .223 *with a stock*.

Plus, it wasn't that loud, I had the levang linear comp on it so most of the noise was directed downrange.

I'm mostly just steamed because i didn't get to play with my new gun
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Wow, so my NAA mini ain't allowed?
Lol, I thought about being a wise ass (I've shot my PMR-30 there many times - had the same thought - .22WMR is a "rifle" round) but decided to just collect my refund, and take my business elsewhere - only thing I can do is vote with my wallet.
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I can think of a long list of 'rifle' rounds shot in pistols and vice versa.

I might even go so far as to suggest a case of firearms bigotry may be at play.

Perhaps an interesting yet fruitless debate....

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I have shot my PLR-16 at the American shooting center at the George Bush park off Westhiemer and hiway 6. Just have to use the rifle range part of the place, they won't let you shoot it on the pistol range.

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I visited Badman400 a few years ago and we had the same problem at one of the ranges near him. They wouldn't allow the PLR-16 on the pistol range because they said it was a rifle (it's not, but it is a "rifle caliber"). The pistol range safety officer told us we had to shoot it at the rifle range, but when we got there we were told we couldn't shoot the PLR-16 pistol on the rifle range. It was as TxCajun said. The berm was a mound of newly piled up dirt and they were concerned that the pistol would sling a rifle bullet over the berm and land on someone else's property a couple of miles away. I guess I can see that, but it still seemed like discrimination against the fine little PLR-16.

They also had the annoying requirement to pause between shots. They didn't like rapid fire. Forget about wasting ammo bump firing.

My local ranges are pretty much anything goes. It's hilly around here and most of the ranges are "up a holler", so it's unlikely that a bullet will get over the berm that's a couple of hundred feet tall.

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