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Old 01-11-2017, 05:51 PM   #11
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Well we've all been wanting Red Lion Precision or someone to build an alloy version that bolts right on. Issue solved, or at least moved to the next weakest link. Or it might cause a new issue. It may cause cosmetic or other damage to the receiver where they contact. Who knows?
But I think if they did it right, it would look bad ass!
Let's flood manufacturers and the factory with requests to offer a metal one!
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:07 PM   #12
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Who are you guys trying to convince us or yourselves? It clear that the plastic rail is marginal at best strengthwise for use with a vfg. If I used a vfg that aluminum aftermarket piece would certainly be used.
I agree.

I'm a HUGE fanboy of the KSG. I talk it up whenever there's a conversation about shotguns.

That said, I'd never put a VFG on the stock rail.

I personally just have a Magpul hand stop "just in case" I forget good mechanics.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:21 AM   #13
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That said, I'd never put a VFG on the stock rail..
I've run a short VFG on mine with no metal rail and no problems.
I tell guest shooters to: "shuck it like you're trying to break it".
It works flawlessly.
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Yup. MagPul handstop is all I need.

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Old 01-12-2017, 10:33 AM   #15
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I've run a short VFG on mine with no metal rail and no problems.
I tell guest shooters to: "shuck it like you're trying to break it".
It works flawlessly.
Good for you. For the sake of your "guest shooters" I hope your luck holds. What's that aluminum rail cost $50. Can't see the downside of it, seems like cheap insurance...?????? Never mistake luck for a good plan.....
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:31 PM   #16
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I've run a short VFG on mine with no metal rail and no problems.
I tell guest shooters to: "shuck it like you're trying to break it".
It works flawlessly.

Again, I'm a KSG fanboy, so I think it's great that the vast majority of people like you never have (and never will) have any kind of failure.

In my OCD brain it's just something that I can't reconcile, so I go without the VFG.

I also prefer the ergonomics and footprint of the gun without a VFG, so it's pretty much a non-issue for me anyway.
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:09 PM   #17
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Exactly why I installed the aluminum rail with the Magpul VFG. The verticle foregrip really makes a difference in handling the KSG, it was the most comfortable of all options I tried (bare, Mapgul AFG, and handstop). The breakage in that picture like already said was more of a twisting motion, however, could still have been done while pumping the gun very hard, which one can tend to do. I really think Kel-tec should steel reinforce their guns more, especially this part. They should also do the end point on the lower handgrip/receiver that connects to the metal latch connected at the bottom of the double feed tubes. However, I haven't heard of that breaking, but could be a potential weak point.

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Who are you guys trying to convince us or yourselves? It clear that the plastic rail is marginal at best strengthwise for use with a vfg. If I used a vfg that aluminum aftermarket piece would certainly be used.
Why I use the AFG. But a handstop would be fine too.

I know plenty of people use a vertical grip with the plastic rail. But I keep getting the nagging feeling of not doing it. So I don't.

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